Driver in RAMC

[jim1]

Up until yesterday all I knew was he was a soldier

Where has this come from?
The 1918 Salford AV list has 2 James Farrell's neither in the RAMC.
He could have been discharged prior to this.

[3hounds]

Up until yesterday all I knew was he was a soldier

Where has this come from?
The 1918 Salford AV list has 2 James Farrell's neither in the RAMC.
He could have been discharged prior to this.

The marriage cert of James and Edith 1903 states ‘soldier’, as does the marriage cert of their son in 1923 (James was deceased). Edith’s death cert from 1919 that I received yesterday states ‘James Farrell, a driver RAMC’

[jim1]

This is not a definite but there are 3 James Farrells RAMC on the SWB list but just 1 attesting as early as 1903.
He is Pte. 3068 att. 9/12/03 & discharged 23/7/15 (wounds).
He went overseas at the outbreak of war (20/8/14) with 14 Field Ambulance, 14th. Brigade, 5th. Div.
All circumstantial of course but looks a distinct possibility.
There is no other information.

[CaroleW]

In your earlier reply you say Edith returned from Canada July 1903, had son John in the September 1903 then married James Farrell in the November 1903

So is James his biological father as John was clearly conceived in Canada?  There is no 1903 birth reg under either Surridge or Farrell

If he was born after 1903 then his birth would be registered as Farrell and show mmn Surridge

[3hounds]

In your earlier reply you say Edith returned from Canada July 1903, had son John in the September 1903 then married James Farrell in the November 1903

So is James his biological father as John was clearly conceived in Canada?  There is no 1903 birth reg under either Surridge or Farrell

If he was born after 1903 then his birth would be registered as Farrell and show mmn Surridge

I found a James Farrell, his age, also go to Canada as a British home child via the Salford catholic rescue society. I always assumed that he was a BHC too. James lived with a family called Olivier who were farmers. And I believe this is why Edith came to Salford, as this was where James originated. He was taken by the Salford catholic rescue society from the workhouse.

[CaroleW]

If they met in Canada I would have expected them to arrive together in July 1903 given Edith was about 7mths pregnant.    There doesn’t appear to be a 1911 entry for them either to verify birthyear/birthplace for John or Edith.

How old are they on the 1903 marriage cert? 

[3hounds]

If they met in Canada I would have expected them to arrive together in July 1903 given Edith was about 7mths pregnant.    There doesn’t appear to be a 1911 entry for them either to verify birthyear/birthplace for John or Edith.

How old are they on the 1903 marriage cert?

No. They appear on none of the census. James was in the army so I wouldn’t have expected them to travel back together.
The family stories say that my gt grandfather John was Irish Canadian and we didn’t know why. James came from Irish background and the Irish community seemed not to take part in the official recordings.
I’ve spent months and months taking bits of information, it’s really hard to relay all that properly so it makes sense as it does to me. Hope that makes sense.
Whethe or not James was John’s biological father is something that’ll never be proven but John named 2 of his children after his parents. James and Edith. He must’ve loved them both very much

 

[3hounds]

How old are they on the 1903 marriage cert?
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18 and 23

[jim1]

This is not a definite but there are 3 James Farrells RAMC on the SWB list but just 1 attesting as early as 1903.
He is Pte. 3068 att. 9/12/03 & discharged 23/7/15 (wounds).
He went overseas at the outbreak of war (20/8/14) with 14 Field Ambulance, 14th. Brigade, 5th. Div.
All circumstantial of course but looks a distinct possibility.
There is no other information.

I put this up earlier so it's possible they came back together & married & then he joined the army if it's him of course.
Have you found James in the UK on any census?