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Joseph Andre - Help Please
« on: Monday 18 November 19 17:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
I am trying to find information about my 2nd Great Grandfather Joseph Andre (b1857). I know the following - Married Blanche Emma Linscott in 1883 (Birkenhead) ; Had 5 children : Helen Emily Blanche Andre (b1883), Rosa May Lilian Andre (b1885), Lavinia Madge Andre (b1886), Joseph Hermann Andre (1888) and Dorothy Grace Andre (b1893). I don't think they had any other children. I know he was a Musical Director/Professor of Music.
I cannot find any census records for him although I have found the census records for his wife and children (with the exception of the 1891 Census for his wife and oldest two children). I also have no idea when he died.
If anyone can track down any census records or other documents about him, I would be most grateful.
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Re: Joseph Andre - Help Please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 November 19 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Where do you get his birthdate from - is that from the marriage record? If so, what else does that record tell you e.g. as to his paternity and the identity of the witnesses?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
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Re: Joseph Andre - Help Please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 November 19 17:43 GMT (UK) »
I got the birth date from a website I found about him. The link is http://composers-classical-music.com/a/AndreJoseph.htm
I have confirmed all the details about his children and I knew most of their details from my grandmother, so I think the birth date this website gives may be a good start. The birthdate could be wrong though.

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Re: Joseph Andre - Help Please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 November 19 19:08 GMT (UK) »
The only birth I found was on family search, the rest freebmd & GRO. Mother noted as Linscott .

Wigan 1883, Chorlton 1885, Salford 1886, West Ham 1888, Fulham 1894

Helen Emily Blanche Andre
Born 26 Oct 1883
Baptism 15 Jan 1884
Joseph Andre
Emma Blanche Andre

I have not been able to find any census but I did find this, original on Family Search, however it does not tie in with the possible death date on the link you posted.

Joseph Andre • Edit   Immigration
Event Date:   03 May 1913
Event Place:   Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States
Residence Place:   London, England
Age:   55
Marital Status:   Married
Nationality:   Germany, German
Birth Year:   1858
Departure Port:   Liverpool
Ship Name:   Cedric
Additional Name:   Mr Reich Aachen • Edit
Departure Contact Name Relationship:   Brother-In-Law
Arrival Contact Name:   Mr Aslland • Edit
Arrival Contact Name Relationship:   Friend

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Re: Joseph Andre - Help Please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 08:35 GMT (UK) »
I can only find Lavinia in 1911 aged 24, mother of course died 1907. Has anyone got 1901 census ref please. Most elusive this family

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Re: Joseph Andre - Help Please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 08:57 GMT (UK) »

1901 Southwark London

RG13 Piece 369 Folio 104 Page 23

Blanche E Andre   36
Ellen B E Andre   19
Madge Andre   14 born 1887
Dorothy G Andre 7

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 08:59 GMT (UK) »
ok found it, there are 3 children with Blanche not 2. ref rg13 369 104 23.

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 08:59 GMT (UK) »
posts crossed Sandra.

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Re: Joseph Andre - Help Please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 09:04 GMT (UK) »
Lavinia Madge Andre appears in quite a few nursing registers.

New York Passenger List

Madge L Andre born 1886 - Southampton to New York on the Mauritania arriving 26 November 1926
Single. Nurse. Friend Mrs Masterson Tottenham Nortenham Glos. Going to Mr Bancroft, Rackford, Wilmington, Delaware.

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