John Brophy please help

[yellowfurbaby]

Hi all please help I am really stuck. Desperately trying to find more about my GG Grandfather John Brophy. I know he was born in Ireland around 1863. At some stage before he got married he moved to Bolton and married Mary Lonigan.
From the census in England I think it says Killkenny.
I have also been on deceased online and found the grave where he is buried with Mary and someone called Winifred Brophy? John died in 1934. Mary his wife 1940 and this mysterious Winifred in 1906?? I don’t see that name in any of the censuses.
I am soon wanting to visit Killkenny and would love to be able to find out more about John Brophy than just he was born in Killkenny!!
Any help would be appreciated.

[gortonboy]

The code 603 on the 1911 census confirms he was from Kilkenny.

[gortonboy]

Do you have his marriage certificate? Who is his father...and what was his father's occupation?

[gortonboy]

Winifred Brophy was his daughter.She was born in1906...and died the same year.

[gortonboy]

Birth
   Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:
   BROPHY, WINIFRED       LONERGAN 
GRO Reference: 1906  M Quarter in BOLTON  Volume 08C  Page 505

 Death indexes for the years: 1906
Surname   Forename(s)   Age or Date of Birth   Sub-District   Registers At   Reference

BROPHY   Winifred   0   Little Bolton   Bolton   

[yellowfurbaby]

Thank you so much for that. Ok that clears Winifred up I was kind of hoping Winifred was Johns mother then I could get back another generation.
So now I am still stuck at John then. I am having real issues with this. I have him on the 1891, 1901 and 1911 census in living in Bolton England. I have him married to Mary Lonigan (Lonegan) and their children but that’s it.

[gortonboy]

Think you need to get the marriage certificate.

[yellowfurbaby]

Yes I think you are right. Just trying to locate it on ancestry files.

[gortonboy]

Just out of interest... Did John follow the Irish naming pattern. It sometimes gives a clue as to parentage if he did.

First son usually named for the father's father
Second son usually named for the mother's father
Third son usually named for the father
Fourth son usually named for the father's eldest brother
Fifth son usually named for the mother's eldest brother
First daughter usually named for the mother's mother
Second daughter usually named for the father's mother
Third daughter usually named for the mother
Fourth daughter usually named for the mother's eldest sister