Where is Francis Day Sr?

[History Lives]

My friend's ancestor William Day (born circa 1825 in Worcestershire, died 1890), moved to Chester, Cheshire with his brother Francis Day (born circa 1829, died 1872).

William's wife was Harriot (maiden name unknown) also born in Worcestershire, currently unable to find marriage.

Francis married Mary Edwards in Chester in 1853. His father is listed also as a Francis Day, baker. However, I'm unable to find a parish baptism for a Francis son of Francis in Worcestershire, nor a baptism for William or a marriage of a Francis Day in Worcestershire during the 1800-1830 era.

Would appreciate any help finding a record for this older Francis. The only baptism transcripts I can find for Francis and William list a mother, Elizabeth Day, in Halesowen.

Found a census record in Halesowen in 1841, with no husband present:

Elizabeth   Dey   Female   45   1796
William   Dey   Male   15   1826
Francis   Dey   Male   15   1826   
Charles   White   Male   25   1816   

Thanks in advance,

Charlie

[PaulineJ]

Can you not get a maiden name for Harriet from any kids?

[rosie99]

So we can see them on census
1851 -HO107/2171 f857 p19

William Day 27
Harrot 26
William 7
Caroline 4
Francis (brother) 22
all born Worcester

ADDED other children from 1861 census
Thomas   c1848   bn Worcester
George   bn c1853   
Elizabeth   bn c 1857   
Henry   bn c   1860
other children bn Chester

[rosie99]

Maybe
DAY, CAROLINE       mmn HADLEY 
1847  March Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION  Volume 18  Page 485

DAY, THOMAS       mmn HADLEY 
1849  Sept Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION  Volume 18  Page 43

DAY, HENRY  FRANCIS     mmn HADLEY 
1859  Dec Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON  Volume 08A  Page 320
 
DAY, EMILY       mmn HADLEY 
1866  Dec Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON  Volume 08A  Page 325

[rosie99]

If I do have the right birth registrations then perhaps this is the son William born before marriage
HADLEY, WILLIAM       mmn HADLEY 
1843  Dec Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION  Volume 18  Page 441

Here is the marriage 

Marriage Dec qtr 1843 
Dey    William       
Hadley    Harriet       
Stourbridge    18   543   

[rosie99]

The fathers name on the marriage of Francis is possibly made up if the baptisms that you have found with just mother Elizabeth are the right children.  I wonder who William named as his father when he married.

This looks like the family you found the baptisms for, all born in County
HO107/908 bk6 f57 p7
Cornbow Street, Halesowen
Elizabeth   Dey   45   occ Nail maker
William   Dey   15   
Francis   Dey   15   
Charles   White 25   

[History Lives]

Hmm...

I can only view a transcript of William's marriage with Harriet, which isn't much help :/

[rosie99]

It looks like that Elizabeth could still be in Halesowen in 1851 & 1861.

In 1851 there is also a grandaughter Elizabeth Day age 14
HO107/2034 f281 p1

In 1861 she is mother inlaw to Levi Shilvock -wife Ann
RG09/2064 f132 p12.  Levi & Ann (Nancy) married in March 1837

[trish1120]

Must be related?

Marriage;
3 Apr 1815, St John the Baptist, Halesowen, Worcs
Charles DAY otp, Bachelor
Elizabeth SHERRARD otp, Widow
Witnesses, Thomas and Maria White**
(FreeREG)

CHARLES Dey buried 25 Aug 1820 same Church age 29
(FreeREG)

1851/1861 Elizabeth DAY is born c 1791 Halesowen.
1861 she is with her married Daug Anne

NANCY Dey Bapt 6 Aug 1815 to CHARLES/ELIZABETH
(on Anc.)

As you say
WILLIAM Day Bapt 02 JUN 1822 Halesowen, Mother ELIZABETH Day
(Familysearch.Org)

So looks to me Elizabeth was widowed twice and went on to have illeg children post 1820

Trish