German Birth or Marriage Record for Bertha

[davecapps]

Well done Karen, good work.

Looks like we are on the right track.
Have to get back to the Christmas cooking

Merry Christmas
Dave

[davecapps]

following Karens find:
FamilySearch

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LZ6X-PVY

[Essnell]

 Hi  Dave, Karen and Garstonite,

Each of you I thank for what you have placed here.  It has been a very interesting few hours going through it all. 
Following Dave's reply yesterday I have visited the Göttsch Family website. 

What a revelation.  So much information.  I decided to contact them via the email and I received a reply and a Christmas gift of relevant information...

It does not give all that much about Claus Göttsch born 1823. His parents yes. 
but no Bertha Alday as his wife, however it appears that he had been married to Silke Göttsch DoM Dec 3, 1859 Probsteierhagen,Duchy Holstein.
 
It gives no further information on either party or children.

Karen's find of Rebecca Aldag could be the next wife, who is the mother of Cãcilie Göttsch -  if Silke died.   I still have to look into that.  I am wondering if the Y is a transcription error that might come from the 'g' looking like a "y".   I was scribbling it down and it looked exactly like that  ....

The lady's tree sited I had seen via Ancestry and there is nothing there to help with linking this part to past and present. 

What Gastronite has sent is also huge. It is from the Geni Library and there is info on there about quite a number of the persons in the tree. It will take ages to go through everything.

Just a thought - Claus immigrated to Australia. I do not know if he came directly here or first went to USA.

So far I have discovered way more than I ever expected thanks to everyone's generous input.
I will have a look for Silke's   death date and Rebecca Aldag

Happy Christmas
Essnell.

[Essnell]

Hi everyone,   

I am still trying to find the connection to Claus Göttsch born 1824.  From the information in all the above work It appears he married Silke Göttsch on the 3rd December 1859. Yes the same surname.

However, I have found some citation references for her marriage:

Not sure if posting them would be Ok.
 
 Could I pm them to one of the  rootschatters from above posts please?
 
Regarding Bertha  Aldag I have nothing more positive.    Still looking and hoping 

Essnell

[davecapps]

Yes, you can send me we what you have.

Regarding Bertha Aldag!

Karens find was - Rebecka ALDAG, born 30.09.1821
I still think this could be Bertha, she could have changed her name or adopted a second name.
The date fits perfectly.

Dave

[Essnell]

Hi Davecapps,

I shall definitely pm you.  Regarding Bertha I agree.

Thanks, for now,
 Essnell. 

[Karen McDonald]

Hi Essnell,

I'm a wee bit confused... 

In your original post, you wrote:

Bertha Alday  DOB  30 - 09 - 1821     Gadersdorff, Duchy Holstein.
                      DOD   08 - 07 - 1864     Schönberg, Germany

Bertha Married   
     Claus Heinrich Göttsch   DOB 18 - 11 - 1823    Wisch, Duchy, Holstein
                                            DOD 20 - 09 - 1886    Schönberg, Germany

marriage date:  11 - 12 - 1847   Schönberg, Holstein.

I later linked the website with info on Rebecka Aldag and her parents.  Her DOB is the same as that for Bertha in your OP. 

You have now written:

It does not give all that much about Claus Göttsch born 1823. His parents yes. 
but no Bertha Alday as his wife, however it appears that he had been married to Silke Göttsch DoM Dec 3, 1859 Probsteierhagen,Duchy Holstein.
 
It gives no further information on either party or children.

Karen's find of Rebecca Aldag could be the next wife, who is the mother of Cãcilie Göttsch -  if Silke died.   I still have to look into that.  I am wondering if the Y is a transcription error that might come from the 'g' looking like a "y".   I was scribbling it down and it looked exactly like that  ....

Unless I am going completely round the bend (OK, so that can't be ruled out  ), Rebecka/Bertha would have been the first wife: She married Claus in 1847.
 
(BTW, it could well be that "Aldag" was simply Anglicised to Alday.)

If I have misunderstood everything, please let me know! 

Best regards,
Karen

EDIT: According to the website which I linked, Silke (Sielke Sielcke) GÖTTSCH did indeed marry a  Claus Göttsch on 03.12.1859.
However, this Claus Göttsch is shown as having been born on 16th June 1823...

http://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/show/1234084808

The lady who has added all the info to the website also cites her sources, which are pretty comprehensive.

Is there maybe a mix-up with the Clauses? 

[Essnell]

Hi Karen,

Thanks for coming back, The original information I was given for this line was as OP.  So finding Silke Göttsch means as you have pointed out She is the second wife and Rebecca is the first wife.   

I missed checking which came first, apologies all.   

Karen may I PM you to explain some things as it is way too much for here.
Essnell

[Karen McDonald]

Karen may I PM you to explain some things as it is way too much for here.
Essnell

Okeydokey!