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Offline rebekahm28

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Can't find Gilbert Wilson on 1939 census :(
« on: Friday 03 January 20 13:57 GMT (UK) »
My fiance's grandfather was Gilbert Wilson from Hull, he married Edna Glenville in 1945 (in Hull) who had previously been married to John Dore. They had a son named Glen. Nothing is known about Gilbert, who is believed to have been in the SAS. I have found a 1918 birth entry with mums maiden name Mawson that maybe him in Sculcoates (the birth year taken from probable death entry), I have ordered marriage cert today so obviously not received it yet. I just can't find any record of him and nobody else seems to be researching this Wilson side. Would World War 1 /SAS records exist? I have an Ancestry sub but not the international one. Thankyou.
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Re: Can't find Gilbert Wilson on 1939 census :(
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 January 20 14:03 GMT (UK) »
If Gilbert was already in the Forces in 1939, then he will not appear on the Register.

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Re: Can't find Gilbert Wilson on 1939 census :(
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 January 20 14:07 GMT (UK) »
Ok thank you.
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Re: Can't find Gilbert Wilson on 1939 census :(
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 January 20 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Krilova on Friday 03 January 20 13:57 GMT (UK)
I have found a 1918 birth entry with mums maiden name Mawson that maybe him in Sculcoates (the birth year taken from probable death entry),

Gilbert Wilson b 6 Sep 1918 died aged 76 Jul 1995, death registered in Hull RD
Register Number:   D46A, District and Subdistrict: 5502D, entry 223


His marriage certificate will be of help, hopefully giving his father's name & occupation and maybe the witnesses were family members

FreeBMD has two other male WILSON/MAWSON births registered in Sculcoates 1923 & 1924

Have you looked on FreeBMD for a possible Wilson/Mawson marriage?

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Re: Can't find Gilbert Wilson on 1939 census :(
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 January 20 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Yes, cant find a suitable Mawson/Wilson marriage. Did see the Leslie and Stanley Wilson births that I've kept as possibles. Thankyou.
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Re: Can't find Gilbert Wilson on 1939 census :(
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 January 20 14:27 GMT (UK) »
If he was named after his father - there is this entry

Gilbert Wilson marriage registered Jun qtr 1918, Sculcoates RD
Spouse:   Gertrude Galleway
Volume 9d, p 252


There's this death maybe their son - not checked out mmn

Gilbert Wilson b 25 Apr 1924 d aged 73 Jun 1997, registered Newcastle upon Tyne RD
Register Number:   A61C, District and Subdistrict: 0531A, entry 138

Just in case it's relevant I'm sending you a personal message as can't post details here

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Re: Can't find Gilbert Wilson on 1939 census :(
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 January 20 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Gertrude may have been firstly married to George David GALLOWAY in 1904.

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Re: Can't find Gilbert Wilson on 1939 census :(
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 January 20 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Gilbert's 1918 marriage was at St Andrew, Drypool - unfortunately FindMyPast marriages only go to 1917.
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
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Re: Can't find Gilbert Wilson on 1939 census :(
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 January 20 14:46 GMT (UK) »
My parents marriage is on FindMyPast and they didn't meet until after WW2, why do you think marriage info stops at 1917?
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