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Adella Rice Fenton b 3 Sept 1886 Kilworth, Country Cork
« on: Wednesday 08 January 20 15:10 GMT (UK) »
I'm looking for any Irish records on Adella Rice Fenton or her family.

What we know is:

Adella Rice Fenton (sometimes listed as Della or Adela) was born 3 Sept c1886
(in American she records her place of birth alternately listed as Kilworth 1884, County Cork, and 'Cammis' Limerick 1886)

by 1908 she was in the US and married a British man from Bristol Augustus Nelson Mudge.

She listed her parents as David Fenton (alternately Maurice David Fenton) and Mary Grant and lists both parents as being from Cork. One bit of conjecture is that Mary Grant was Maurice's second wife and that the first was named Rice.

Adella had a sister who also ended up in the US (eventually in NY) named Margaret Fenton (b circa 1873 also in Cork). 

Any help would be most appreciated!


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Re: Adella Rice Fenton b 3 Sept 1886 Kilworth, Country Cork
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 January 20 18:53 GMT (UK) »
This is proving to be a head scratcher, I'm sure I'm not the only one trying to find them.
Kilworth is in the reg district of Fermoy.
There are Fenton, Rice and Grant's in the district just getting them in the correct combination for your family is not happening so far.

I wonder if Cammis could be Camas North https://www.townlands.ie/en/limerick/smallcounty/monasteranenagh/crean/camas-north/

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Re: Adella Rice Fenton b 3 Sept 1886 Kilworth, Country Cork
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 January 20 18:58 GMT (UK) »
same for me - nothing promising in births or marriage of her parents in Ireland

a possible match on US New York 1925 census suggests born England, but nothing showing up in UK BMD index on the GRO site either

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Re: Adella Rice Fenton b 3 Sept 1886 Kilworth, Country Cork
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 January 20 19:00 GMT (UK) »
Any occupation for the father on her marriage and what religion were they?


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Re: Adella Rice Fenton b 3 Sept 1886 Kilworth, Country Cork
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 January 20 19:14 GMT (UK) »
found several Margaret Fenton births around 1873 in counties Cork and Limerick, but none that I've seen with the right parents - David/Maurice Fenton & Mary Grant or XXX Rice

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Re: Adella Rice Fenton b 3 Sept 1886 Kilworth, Country Cork
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 January 20 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Closest I got was Maurice Fenton and Elizabeth Rice in Fermoy district but couldn't find the right children to go with them, a William and Eliza in Kilworth

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Re: Adella Rice Fenton b 3 Sept 1886 Kilworth, Country Cork
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 January 20 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all.
These have been some of the hardest ancestors in my tree to track down. I really appreciate the help!

Responding to the questions/items brought up:

1. Adella listed her father as David Fenton, laborer from Cork on her marriage certificate. In another document, he is listed as Maurice David Fenton. One of her children was named Maurice. Adella is variously spelled Adela, and Della.

2. We're pretty sure she was Catholic (her children definitely were, even though her British husband was not.)

3. She was married in Maine in 1908 (her path once in the US is fairly well documented, it's her Irish birth/parents/family that are the mystery)

4. We're confident her birth was around 1885 plus or minus a year or two.

5. She herself listed Kilworth as her place of birth. Her death certificate shows 'Cammis' Limerick

6. Her sister Margaret Fenton, came to the US in 1912 and listed her address as Chapel Road, Kilworth. Her birth is variously listed in the 1871-1875 range. (came over on the Lusitania btw)

6. Possible siblings or 1/2 siblings:
Mary Josephine b1865
Thomas b1867 (parents Maurice Fenton, Elizabeth Rice)
Elizabeth b1870 (parents Maurice Fenton, Elizabeth Rice)
William b1872 (parents Maurice Fenton, Elizabeth Rice)
Margaret b1875 (lived with Adelle and took care of her kids when Adelle died) **confirmed sibling
Bridget b1877 (parents Maurice Fenton, Elizabeth Rice)

I still haven't found records that convincingly connect Adelle to her parents and place of birth, or to her siblings.

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Re: Adella Rice Fenton b 3 Sept 1886 Kilworth, Country Cork
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 January 20 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Here is Bridget’s birth. The names Bridget and Delia are often interchanged. The age is out though.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02982/2092665.pdf
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Re: Adella Rice Fenton b 3 Sept 1886 Kilworth, Country Cork
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 January 20 20:36 GMT (UK) »
and here's William's birth 1872 parents Maurice Fenton and Elizabeth Rice

no sign though of this Mary Grant, maybe that's an error