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Re: NEW TOPIC - Birth/Baptism Record CLIFT
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 16 January 20 12:00 GMT (UK) »
My sincere thanks to everyone who replied to my query and thank you for your help. It really helps to have fresh eyes on a problem.  I had become blinkered in my perception and your information has helped move my thinking forward.  Good wishes Carole

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Re: NEW TOPIC - Birth/Baptism Record CLIFT
« Reply #10 on: Friday 17 January 20 00:27 GMT (UK) »
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Looking at GloucestershireBMD Index

Mother's Maiden name: CLIFT

Child Surname

GOULD Joseph - 1882, Stroud, Office, Stroud, Michinhampton  **
GOULD James - 1886, ditto  ****


*** There is a flag by the entry - and shows a link to two mother's Former Name - but same entry number i.e. DAWN and CLIFT - (GRO INDEX just gives DAWN)

The GRO Index - is a Dec Quarter

GOULD, Joseph - Mother's Maiden Surname: DAWN

GRO Reference: 1882, D Quarter in Stroud Volume 06A Page 349
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GRO Index -

GOULD James - mother's maiden Surname: HIND

GRO Reference: 1886, M Quarter in STROUD, Volume 06A Page 360
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**** The one for James in 1886, gives two mother's maiden names again: i.e. CLIFT and HIND


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There are families of GOULD and HIND in Michinhampton - but I can't find any marriage.

I would be very interested in looking at both of these birth certs to see if they shared the same father or mother or both.  The birth of Joseph at least may be related to the Joseph GOULD and Mary CLIFF together at Minchinhampton in 1881.  It looks like Joseph Snr. died in 1889.

Piece: 2549; Folio: 117; Page: 22

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27J-XNQZ

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Re: NEW TOPIC - Birth/Baptism Record CLIFT
« Reply #11 on: Friday 17 January 20 09:16 GMT (UK) »
This is the link to the census  (brilliant!)

1881 Census, Minchinhampton

Joseph GOULD 56 - Widower, Wood Sawyer, born Stroud, Gloucestershire
Mary CLIFF - lodger - Widow (Flock & Shoddy Worker)  36 - born Nottingham,** England
Annie CLIFF - lodger - female - 14  Gen Servant Domestic - born Stroud

(written on census as CLIFF)

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** sometimes, people are born in different places, because the canal system was in its hay-day.


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Not sure whether a 'one free look-up' service is available at the Gloucestershire Records Office - this was the case a few years ago, because I used this.

Joseph - 1882 says he was born in Michinhampton, Glos
James - 1886 says he was born in Woodchester, Glos.

Using Genuki Gloucestershire - and calculating distance - this is 2 miles

and this website gives, an Extract from National Gazetter, 1868 for Minchinhampton


'On Minchinhampton Common is a very extensive entrenchment, called Amberley Camp, the site of which belongs to the poor, to whom it was granted by Mrs Alice Hampton in Henry VIII's time, when the allotment was 1,000 acres; but from the encroachments which have occasionally taken place, it has been reduced to nearly half the amount. 

The entenchment stretches to the length of 3 miles from the hamlet of Littleworth to a valley on the opposite side of the town, called Woeful Danes Bottom - an appellation supposed to be derived from the sanguinary overthrow suffered by the Danes from Alfred the Great in 879.

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Re: NEW TOPIC - Birth/Baptism Record CLIFT
« Reply #12 on: Friday 17 January 20 10:30 GMT (UK) »
On Ancestry - there is a Prison Records   - 14 days

Joseph GOOLD - aged 56 birthplace:  Stroud, occupation: SAWYER - dated 13 May 1882
Aged 56, 5ft 5 inches tall -


Religion : DISSENTER - so a non-conformist!

He is in Stroud 1871 - listed as GOOLD - along with his Wife.


Gloucestershirebmd

Joseph GOULD 1889 - Stroud District Age: 66 c1823


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Re: NEW TOPIC - Birth/Baptism Record CLIFT
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 01 February 20 22:31 GMT (UK) »
My apologies as I don't think I replied to your message. Thank you for your help and information.  I really appreciate it.  Good wishes  Carole