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Seems like I've got Confused...
« on: Thursday 20 February 20 11:05 GMT (UK) »
My gggrandfather was a Patrick Gillespie.

I believe he was in the Norfolk Regiment 9th Foot - Regiment number 3342 and I also have a note that he was born in 1835.

But when checking my ancestry tree I have an entry saved for him:

Birth year   1841
Birth parish   Carnmore
Birth town   Galway
Service number   3342
Rank   SERGEANT
Regiment   Norfolk Regiment - 9th Foot
Attestation age years   18
Discharge corps   9th Reg Of Foot
Series   Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army

Which all looks fine but linked with the above for some reason I have his attestation date as being 4th Sept 1859, now this is where I'm confused.

Patrick Gillespie 3342 is listed on the war medal roll for the Crimean War receiving the Crimea medal with the Alma and Inkerman clasps which were battles fought on the 20th Sept and 5th Nov 1854 !!

I no longer have my membership to FOLD3 to check the details again and was hoping some kindly soul can put me straight and confirm his attestation date and the DOB they have recorded because if it is 1841 that would have made him only 13 for the Crimean war which seems highly unlikely.

Felling a little confuddled at the moment ! :)

This is another ancestor who seems to have very little information recorded but looks like was an interesting character as I put some notes down saying:

Recorded as being 5'9" when in the Army, was also in Malta, Canada, Cape of Good Hope, Corfu, England and Ireland, was also court marshaled for unofficial leave of his camp as well as for drunkeness.

I think I must have got that from UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Soldier Service Records, 1760-1920 when I had access... (should take screen shots in future!).

So I am trying to get as much accurate information as possible.


With thanks

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Re: Seems like I've got Confused...
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 February 20 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked to see if you can have 7day free trial of Fold 3 or is your membership too recent? 

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Re: Seems like I've got Confused...
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 February 20 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks both,

I'll do the free trial once I've got a few other ancestors sorted out who's records I also need to maximise the use of it...

1852 makes a lot more sense - many thanks and means the 1835 bdate fits as well.


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Re: Seems like I've got Confused...
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 February 20 12:07 GMT (UK) »
According to the army record he was aged 39 years and 4 months on discharge on 30 December 1873.
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Re: Seems like I've got Confused...
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 February 20 16:55 GMT (UK) »
According to the army record he was aged 39 years and 4 months on discharge on 30 December 1873.

Many thanks - that would push him to about August 1834 - I'm going to have to check where I got 1835 from :)

Looks like I took 1835 from the estimate of his marriage record...


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Re: Seems like I've got Confused...
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 February 20 17:42 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Seems like I've got Confused...
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 February 20 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Here's the civil marriage record in case you don't have it: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11595/8267319.pdf

Fabulous, thank you, I had the parish records but not this document.

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Re: Seems like I've got Confused...
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 March 20 14:42 GMT (UK) »
According to the army record he was aged 39 years and 4 months on discharge on 30 December 1873.

From what I've dug up recently he died 5 months later of an aneurysm... one month after his son was born....