Is this the right Rose Emily Bills?

[Flouncylicious]

I have been helping my god daughter with her family tree, and I would appreciate some help trying to locate the correct Rose Emily Bills.

Rose Emily Bills marries Andrew Samuel Street in Plaistow October 1913. On the certificate she states she is 19, and her father is Joseph Bills, engineer, deceased.

I could not find anything in births or on the census that matched with a father called Joseph. All I found was a baptism dated 1898 Limehouse, for a Rose Emily Bills born 29/11/1893 to an Emma and Francis Bills (occ mariner). So I looked at the GRO and decided to order the only entry showing for a Rose Emily Bills GRO Reference: 1894  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 669 – MMN blank.

It showed the birth date as 29/11/1893, no father and the mother Emma Bills, preserve factory worker. I found her with her parents on the census in 1871, 1881, 1891 living in Limehouse born c.1869 Limehouse. Father Francis, a shipwright and mother Matilda. Emma’s occupation is pickle filler which fits with the birth certificate. Her father being called Francis made me wonder if she had just borrowed his name for the baptism record.

Other than the father’s name on the marriage certificate, this seems to be the only birth that fits. Have I missed another Rose Emily? Any help greatly appreciated.

[rosie99]

Do you have Rose on the 1939 register

[Flouncylicious]

Do you have Rose on the 1939 register

Sorry Rosie, I left the 1939 out of my original post. I found an Andrew S Street with the correct birth year from the marriage cert, married to a Rosa with a birth date in 1889.

[carol8353]

Do you have Rose on the 1939 register

Sorry Rosie, I left the 1939 out of my original post. I found an Andrew S Street with the correct birth year from the marriage cert, married to a Rosa with a birth date in 1889.

That doesn't seem to be the correct one. Look for Rose E Street with the exact date of birth that you gave earlier (29th Nov 1893)

[rosie99]

Death Mar qtr 1981   
Rose Emily STREET   
Date of birth 29 NOV 1893   
REDBRIDGE reg dist    14   1301

[Flouncylicious]

Do you have Rose on the 1939 register

Sorry Rosie, I left the 1939 out of my original post. I found an Andrew S Street with the correct birth year from the marriage cert, married to a Rosa with a birth date in 1889.

That doesn't seem to be the correct one. Look for Rose E Street with the exact date of birth that you gave earlier (29th Nov 1893)

Thanks Carol, I've found her now, her surname had been altered and my search didn't pick up on it. Looks like her and Andrew split up, as she's with her son and another man. I've checked the son's birth MMN on the index and it's definitely her.

[Flouncylicious]

Death Mar qtr 1981   
Rose Emily STREET   
Date of birth 29 NOV 1893   
REDBRIDGE reg dist    14   1301

Thanks Rosie

[Flouncylicious]

Carol and Rosie, I hope you both see this. Whilst checking the birth date of Rose's son Andrew, thanks to your guidance on the 1939, it brought up some military info. Turns out he was awarded an MBE for his services to the military as a volunteer in 1959. This is an amazing find. Thank you so much.

[rosie99]

I am really pleased that you have found that 'gem'.   Things like that make FH so much more interesting