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Who said History was boring?
« on: Monday 02 March 20 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Makes interesting reading
They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken & Sold to the tannery.......if you had to do this to survive you were "P--- Poor"

But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot......they "didn't have a pot to p--- in" & were the lowest of the low

The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by June.. However, since they were starting to smell . ...... . Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting Married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof... Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."

There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme: Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old. Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and chew the fat.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the upper crust.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would Sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive... So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, saved by the bell or was considered a dead ringer.

And that's the truth....Now, whoever said History was boring?

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Re: Who said History was boring?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 March 20 13:01 GMT (UK) »
I never did ;D
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Re: Who said History was boring?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 March 20 13:15 GMT (UK) »
This is an interesting thread but I think it would be enhanced with citations. I wonder if some of these are urban myths. I'm dubious about the bread one. I have never heard of anybody slicing the bread horizontally.

I'm also a bit doubtful about scratching the inside of a coffin lid. However frenzied you feel, is it possible to scratch pine with fingernails?

I can almost accept the idea that a cat might go on the roof keep warm, but I have never seen a dog on a roof. Here are some more explanations for the expression raining cats and dogs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raining_cats_and_dogs

With regard to a wake, if this one was true, why do certain religions insist that a body is buried or burnt within 24-hours?

Regarding urine, this is an alternative theory:

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pis1.htm

I think when trying to validate theories like these, it is important to look to see if similar things exist in other languages and cultures.

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Re: Who said History was boring?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 March 20 13:18 GMT (UK) »
This list has been posted before. I can't remember the finer points of the discussion that followed but Martin I think you might be right in saying that some of these are incorrect (presumably the text is American as they mention "England is old and small").

As an example, a quick google found this:
https://www.thoughtco.com/floors-in-medieval-times-1788705
(though I have no idea about it's accuracy)

and ....
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/life-in-the-1500s/


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Re: Who said History was boring?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 March 20 13:23 GMT (UK) »
Sorry geordisue but I think a lot of these are incorrect (as Ruskie says, this list has been posted on here before)

For instance the derivation of ‘saved by the bell’ is from boxing.

http://www.jefflewis.net/factoids3.html
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Re: Who said History was boring?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 March 20 13:37 GMT (UK) »
This article

https://www.nealasher.co.uk/life-in-1500s/

from 2009, on the same subject, starts with the line "I wonder how much of this is apocryphal".

"Lies, damn lies and the internet", to paraphrase Mark Twain, wrongly attributed to Benjamin Disraeli, although Wikipedia is not always a reliable source!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics

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Re: Who said History was boring?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 March 20 17:02 GMT (UK) »
I lived in Yorkshire for most of my childhood.  Some of the older rellies lived in Redditch, Worcestershire.

My Gran always sliced bread horizontally, known to us children as "cutting the bread the Redditch way".

I'm not sure, but think the bread was even buttered before it was sliced.(Will need to check with my sister on that - but she will probably say I am so much older than she is, so she can't remember. - Age difference = 2yrs!!)

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Re: Who said History was boring?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 March 20 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Whilst I was born and grew up in Cheshire, all my ancestors derived from Yorkshire.  I do remember that bread was sliced horizontally, having first been buttered, and who was wielding the knife depended on how thick the slices were.  It frightened the life out of me  :)  But I was always amazed at how well it was done - I'm sure you could have balanced a spirit level on the loaf and the "bubble" would be almost central.
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 March 20 17:22 GMT (UK) »
You're correct bread was buttered before slicing probably to stop the bread from tearing. It could then be cut quite thin.
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