Elizabeth McKinnon PEI

[oldohiohome]

Robert & Helena (Ellis) Rae's daughter, Jane "Jennie" Rae, married 9 April 1891 in St John NB. was born in Gagetown, NB

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBX-1PH8

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This family looks a lot like that couple, even down to the wide gap in ages for husband and wife, but all the birth records for the children say that this Jennie's maiden name was Mullin. I couldn't sort it out, maybe you can. One possibility - Jane was raised by a Mullin family. In 1891 she'd only be 15, but she is not with her mother and David.

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1901 Census, St John NB
Lester Callahan, 39, Irish, Canadian, Methodist
Jennie, 25, English, Canadian, Methodist
Charles, 8, Irish, Canadian, Methodist
Robert, 5, Irish, Canadian, Methodist
Jennie, 1, Irish, Canadian, Methodist

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHKZ-XTY

1911, Guys Ward, St John NB
at 20 Water Street

Leslie Callaghan, 51, July 1860
Jennie, 36, February 1855
Charles, 18, July 1893
Robert, 16, May 1895
Violet, 13, August 1898
Mary, 5, May 1906
Victor, 3, February 1908

All English, Canadian, Methodist, born in New Brunswick

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV95-YQ49

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Jennie's death
16 September 1914
age 39, at 20 Water Street, St John NB
father: Mullin
husband: Lesley Callaghan
cause: phithisis
buried: Cedar Hill Cemetery

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WK-GK2J

and
Jennie Callaghan
16 September 1914
at 20 Water Street, St John
born: Washademoak Lake
religion: Baptist
cause: consumption

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XGCC-JJZ

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Washademoak Lake, NB, is not that far from Gagetown as the crow flies.

[Lyvette]

We must be on the same wave length as I was just looking her up! I did find a Jennie Mullin in the 1881 and 1891 census, but Jane “Jennie” Rae is also in the 1881 census with David and Helena.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MV67-658

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWKV-CQ6

On the marriage record to her husband Leslie, it says her parents are David and Helena Ray. So now I’m confused about her.

[oldohiohome]

The Jennie Mullin on the census is Catholic, but the one married to Leslie Callaghan is not. Methodist on the censuses, but her death said Baptist.
Yes, I'm confused also.

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The Protestant marriages are on the civil registrations for Ireland starting about 1855, so maybe Robert Rae and Helena Ellis are there. I couldn't find them, maybe you will.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

I didn't find them in Scotland either, but haven't looked thoroughly.

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edited to add
The marriage record has to be her. I didn't find any family matching them in the US either. Canada is harder for me to search, they might have moved ..?

[polarbear]

About Jane...

The 1881 census apparently doesn't give relationships and I was wondering if Jane/Jennie might actually be a granddaughter of Robert and Helena. Although not an impossibility, Helena seems a bit old to have a 5 year old child. Robert and Helena are also old enough to have children older than David. Perhaps they had a daughter who married a Mullin but Jane ended up beng raised by her grandparents.

I also believe the other Catholic Jane/Jennie Mullin is a different Jennie. She is still alive after 1914.

It looks like Leslie and other family members ended up in the USA. This appears to be the burial for Leslie....

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/127868310/leslie-callahan

Children look like a match.

PB

[oldohiohome]

Robert and Helena are also old enough to have children older than David.

Married at the Presbyterian Church in the Parish of Racavan [?], County Antrim
May 11, 1848
Robert Ray, 22, bachelor, weaver, of of Glenocum [Townland], parish of Skerry, father: Joseph Ray, farmer.
Helena Ellice, 20, spinster, of Glenocum [Townland], parish of Skerry father: Alexander Ellice, farmer

signed Robert -his mark- Ray, and Helena Ellice
witnesses: Charles Johnston, Willam Crawford

note at bottom of page:
"I Robert Stewart, minister of the Congregation of Broughshane, in the county of Antrim, do hereby certify " ... that the entries are correct, etc.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1848/09342/5382455.pdf

[polarbear]

What a great find!

PB

[oldohiohome]

What a great find!
PB

I wouldn't have looked that early if you hadn't pointed out her age.
Unfortunately civil birth registrations don't start until 1864. And I don't know a thing about the Presbyterian church records.
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This might be Robert's father:

Griffith's Valuation of Ireland
Glenocum Townland, Skerry Parish, Union of Ballymena, Antrim
finished 23 January 1862

Joseph Ray, renting a house only, no land, from William Crawford, who was listed above him.

There were only 3 households in the townland and no Ellice. her father may have died between May 1848 and January 1862

No Ellice on Griffith's in all Antrim. Lots of Ellis men, but the only Alexander was in Shankill, Belfast.

[polarbear]

Still no sign of definitive info about the McKinnon side of things but the Rae side is certainly very interesting. 

PB

[Lyvette]

What a great find!

PB

I agree! Great find!

With regards to Jane/Jennie - any possibility she could be a daughter of Robert Rae and one of the Mullins? An illegitimate child perhaps. Would be awfully progressive for her to be living between both households though, so I think it’s a very slim chance.