Arthur Edward ROWLES/MURPHY

[TROOPER ROLLO]

WHEN AND WHERE IS HE BURIED
Arthur Edward Rowles was born Sunday, 14th May 1899 at 81 Newton Street, Ormskirk the son of Edward & Gabrielle Rowles (née Veille or Morton) an ‘Engineer’ of Ormskirk.

He was baptized 4th June 1899 at St. John, Ainsdale, Lancashire.
His parents address was given as 25 Lancaster Road.

In the 1911 census he is age 13 and living with his widowed mother at 2 Nursery Street, Liverpool, Lancashire. She is now using the surname of ‘Aworay’.
In 1912 he was ‘confirmed’ in St. Anthony’s Church, Liverpool. (Catholic)

His Merchant Seaman Documents tell us that he served on the S.S. “Runic” during his time in the War. She was a White Star Liner operating between Liverpool and Sydney. Like all of her sister vessels, she was requisitioned during World War One and was operated under the Line Requisition Scheme between 1917 and 1918.

His rank was listed as a ‘Trimmer’. This is a man who breaks large lumps of coal down to a suitable size for the boliers.

He applied for an ‘Ale-House’ Licence on 19th October 1921 in Bradford, West Yorkshire.

Family stories say that he jumped ship in New York
and then used that surname ‘Murphy’. He met up with family visiting from England in the 1960’s and travelled up from New York to Montreal.

He married Annie Beattie in U.S.A and they had 1 son, James Arthur Murphy.
He went on to have 2 sons and several grandchildren. They all use the name ‘Murphy’.

It is believed that Arthur worked at Radio City Music Hall in New York as a stage hand or
lighting man for most of his working life.
It is also believed that he was an illegal alien in America with no passport, driver license, etc.

He died in November 1985 in New York, U.S.A.  He was age 87.

But where is he buried. Can you help.

[RJ137]

His Petition for Naturalization stating he was formerly Arthur Edward Rowles.

He appears on Images: 329-333

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP7X-29ZD

Edit to Add:

It appears he lived & died? in Florida.

SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VM28-7PL

[*Sandra*]

His Petition for Naturalization stating he was formerly Arthur Edward Rowles.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP7X-29ZD

Edit to Add:

It appears he lived & died? in Florida.

SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VM28-7PL

Can I suggest this possible death record - the names of the parents seem to fit - Arthur Murphy and Gabriel Auvray. Birth date varies 12 May 1898

- Batesville Casket Co. In  Charlotte NC

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99GD-3PKN

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

North Carolina Death Index - Arthur Edward Murphy - 12 May 1898 remainder of the world and aged 87 years - widowed - Residence Place Charlotte, Mecklenburg, North Carolina
Death Date 27 Nov 1985 Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:H4WV-1FZM

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGHX-RWQ

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Could this be James Arthur Murphy 

The Boston Globe Boston, Massachusetts 6 Mar 1983, Sun    Page 60

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/46457519/obituary-for-james-a-murphy/

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007


James Arthur Murphy - [James Murphy 11 May 1930 Bronx New York - Death Date Mar 1983
Father Arthur E Murphy Mother Anna B Beattie
Disability Status Disability denied - no record of type.



1940 census West 17th Street

Arthur Murphy   41    Superintendent. Alien,
Anna Murphy   41
James Murphy   9


Sandra

[oldohiohome]

Can I suggest this possible death record - the names of the parents seem to fit - Arthur Murphy and Gabriel Auvray. Birth date varies 12 May 1898
burial - Batesville Casket Co. In  Charlotte NC
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99GD-3PKN
Sandra

It says he was cremated by the Batesville Casket Co, Charlotte NC, so he isn't buried anywhere.
It also says he died in the Veteran's Administration hospital, which had me wondering, but his naturalization papers, posted in an earlier reply, say:
"I entered the US Army on August 24, 1942, serial # 32435709" and was transferred to the enlisted reserve corps June 23, 1943
So he qualified for the VA care.

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here are some addresses for him in NYC, from his WWII Draft Registration card.

WWII Draft
born 14 May 1898, Liverpool
draft registration 15 February 1942
first address on card: 1437 Madison Ave
next 255 East 86th, Apt 2D, superintendent
next: 1773 1st Ave Apt 9
next: 153 East 43rd St
contact: Anna Murphy, same address as his first. [they probably only updated his as time went by]
occupation: unemployed

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and did he marry Annie Beattie twice? or is this transcribed incorrectly?

Marriage
transcribed as 6 September 1942 in Manhattan
married Annie Beattie
his residence: 1773 First Ave
his parents: transcribed as Arthur E Rowles and Gabriel Rowles
witnesses: Robert McKeever and Thomas Boyer

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- both records on ancestry - there is a picture of him on a tree there, but I am assuming it is your tree ... ?

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edited to add:
That business about him enlisting in the Army, then being transferred to a reserve corps might have something to do with them not calling men of his age in 1942. My father was born in 1903 and was about to be drafted in 1943 when he enlisted instead in the Navy SeaBees (Construction Battalion). So they might have put Arthur "on hold".  But I'm not positive, I am by no means a military expert, I'm just going by my father's experience.

[*Sandra*]

U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010 - James Murphy
Birth Date 11 May 1930 - Death Date 5 Mar 1983 - Branch 1 AF
Enlistment Date 1 12 Oct 1950 - Release Date 1 28 Aug 1954

Birth - James Murphy 11 May 1930 Bronx, New York City, New York.
Certificate Number 6444

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Could this be James Arthur Murphy 

The Boston Globe Boston, Massachusetts 6 Mar 1983, Sun    Page 60

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/46457519/obituary-for-james-a-murphy/

Sandra

You might find the son "E" mentioned in the obit on social media.

Sandra