Frank Harmer Caron

[Jamjar]

Looks right, Kay. 

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[Jamjar]

Mar 1889 Toxteth Park 8b 329
CARON Frank Harmer
MEREDITH Lizzie

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[amondg]

1901 census  15 Ella Street  Manchester

Frank Harmer 31 professional violin music worker born Wigan
Elizabeth 31 born Wales   (1911 Lanfyllin)
Frank 9 born Birmingham Staff
Jerry 7 born Bolton Lancs
Maggie 6 born Bolton Lancs
Minnie 3 born St Helen's Lancs (female)
Pierce age 10 months (as transcribed) this should be Pierre later Peter
Margaret Harmer 72 mother widow born London Mdx.

ADDED mother Margaret died 1902 registered as Margaret Caron  age 72 Manchester March quarter vol. 8d page 168

[Neale1961]

See previous thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=826226.18

[Jamjar]

The father:

CARON, FRANCIS  VICTOR mmn PERREY 
GRO Reference: 1869  D Quarter in WIGAN  Volume 08C  Page 54

His parents:

Mar 1859 W. London 1c 84
CARON Peter Joseph
PERRY Margaret Ann   
Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJQN-J9J

CARON, PIERRE  JOSEPH mmn PERREY 
GRO Reference: 1859  D Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 285   
Census:
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q275-88GW
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7ZHR-W6Z
Marriage:
Mar 1883 Fylde 8e 839
CARON Pierre Joseph
BENTLEY Martha   
Children:
CARON, ELEANOR mmn BENTLEY 
GRO Reference: 1883  D Quarter in FYLDE  Volume 08E  Page 706
CARON, PATTIE mmn BENTLEY 
GRO Reference: 1885  M Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 854
CARON, PIERRE  JOSEPH mmnBENTLEY 
GRO Reference: 1887  M Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 867
Death:
CARON, PIERRE  JOSEPH    34 
GRO Reference: 1893  D Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 171
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPL8-R4MQ

CARON, MARGARET  CAROLINE mmn PERREY 
GRO Reference: 1861  D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE SOUTHWARK  Volume 01D  Page 166
Death:
CARON, MARGARET  CAROLINE    6 
GRO Reference: 1868  J Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 01C  Page 225

CARON, JAMES  HENRY mmn PERREY 
GRO Reference: 1865  M Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 313
Death:
CARON, JAMES  HENRY    2 
GRO Reference: 1867  D Quarter in SAINT LUKE MIDDLESEX  Volume 01B  Page 472
 
CARON, SARAH  ELIZABETH mmn PERREY 
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 342
Possible marriage:
Mar 1890 Chorlton 8c 934   
HARMER Sarah Caron
ROWBOTTOM William, OR SCOTT William

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[Jockwatt]

Great thanks to all who responded  !

[Kay99]

I think use of the Harmer surname may orginate from an alias name used by  Pierre Joseph Caron's father

From the Anc Poor Law Removal and Settlement Records - Bethenal Green  - Orders of Removal

25 Feb 1858 "Rebecca Caron 33 and Peter Joseph Caron 34 Actor of the City of London Theatre also goes by the name of Harmer    She was deserted by him .... and unable to support herself "

He is referred to as Peter John Caron alias Harmer born at Mape? St and his father was a weaver and rented the house  - mother living in Norton St

It appears he deserted his first wife Rebecca in 1858 and the next year married Margaret Perry as a batchelor

Kay

[Jamjar]

Dec 1844 Hackney 3 131
CARON Peter Joseph
MANTOR Rebecca Spring

1861, possibly: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-81CK

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRJ2-ZWM

1851, The father, mother etc of Peter Joseph, above. Only initials are given for the children:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXL-6NQ

1861, mother: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-8QPM

Death:

CARON, PETER    80 
GRO Reference: 1854  J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 177

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