Zibiah Evans born Hereford

[Talacharn]

I have been tracing the lineage of Daniel Evans and came across him with parents in 1891. Now I am trying to find Zibiah, it says born in Hereford. I cannot find a marriage, therefore no accurate birth and no other census record. Any help gratefully received.

1891 Census . Garn Road . Llanfinhangel Aberbythych, Llandilofawr, Carmarthenshire . Town Cathilas
Edwin Evans . 41 . 1850 . Tinplate Worker . Gipsy . Brecon
Zibiah Evans . 40 . 1851 . Basket Maker . Gipsy . Hereford
Daniel Evans . Son . 20 . 1871 . Single . Tinplate Worker . Gipsy . Carmarthenshire
Perrin B Williams . Nephew . 17 . Single . Aberavon, Glamorganshire . Tinplate Worker
RG12 . Piece 4512 . Folio 93 . Page 17

All I have found is: Zibiah Barber . mmn Phillips (Oct-Dec 1852 . Leominster, Herefordshire . Volume: 6a . Page: 461)

She married into a travelling family, though I do not know if her family were travellers. The nephew Perrin Butler Williams, was part of a travelling family that were linked to a Boswell family also travellers.

[KGarrad]

1891 Census says that Edwin and his wife Zibiah were both born in England?

[Talacharn]

I am aware it says England for both, but Brecon is Wales. I have also seen Carmarthenshire regarded as England, therefore accepted it as an error. Brecon and Hereford would seem accurate. Their son was born in Llanwrda and registered in Llandovery. I now feel it is important for me to buy that birth certificate.

[Talacharn]

The GRO has placed a Coronavirus statement: ‘To help ensure that our services are accessible to those that need them most throughout this period, if you are able to do so we would ask that you delay making your order until a later date.’ My need for a certificate can wait.

Considering Daniel is 20, they should be on the 1881 and 1871 census, though that may be solely in Wales. My interest with this post, is her birth, parents and early life.

[chempat]

Which birth entry do you think is Daniel's?

[chempat]

Are you sure her name is Zibiah - it could be Libeah?

[Talacharn]

Zibiah is a name used at the time and if it had been mis-spelt/heard, why write Zibiah?
There is: Zibiah Barber . mmn Phillips (Oct-Dec 1852 . Leominster, Herefordshire . Volume: 6a . Page: 461), which fits with date and location. Although saying they were married, they may not have actually married.

As for the birth of Daniel Evans, I believe it is one of these:
Jan-Mar 1871 . mmn Williams . Llandovery . Volume 11a . Page 716
Apr-Jun 1871 . mmn Jones . Llandovery . Volume 11a . Page 735
All other census records say he was born in Llanwrda/Llandovery.
There is no mmn Barber for it to be the Zibiah above.

I was aware of another Daniel Evans born at the same time, linked to a farm and remained in the Llandovery area. In buying both, the parents will clarify. Tracing different strands back, they lead to a Williams family in Montgomeryshire, who were travellers. I would not be surprised if this does the same with mmn Williams.

[KGarrad]

The person writing names may not have heard correctly, due to local accents/dialect?
Zibiah (also Sibiah) is a Hebrew name from the Old Testament.

Other variations: Tzivyah, Tzivia, Tzivya, Tzvia, Zibia.
Related names:  Aram-zobah, Barsabbas, Hamath-zobah, Sabaoth, Tabitha, Zeboiim, Ziba, Zibia, Zobah, Zobebah.

Biblical References:  2 Kings 12:1, 2 Chronicles 24:1

[Talacharn]

I have seen some of the variations and they were male, though some will also be female.
One name that could be misheard to make Zibiah is Elizabeth.
As they were travellers, who often had biblical names, a possible leap to Zibiah.
I don't feel we will get any closer until I read the birth certificate.