Lookup - Summerscales, George and Elizabeth

[ms_canuck]

Who knew there were so many Summerscales in West Yorkshire.

I am looking at George Summerscales, born 1814, Southowram, W Yorkshire to William Summerscales and Martha Schofield/Scholfield.  I have followed him via the 1841 through 1881 Census documents.  He married (I think) in 1833 and first child John was born in 1835.  They had 6 children and then the first wife, Elizabeth, died in 1866.  George married Hannah Barroclough that same year, and he died in 1887.

My question is regarding the name (surname) of his first wife, Elizabeth.  I have found Banns for a marriage between George Summerscales (Occ. Dyer) and Elizabeth Holgate in October 1833 - which fits with the timeline.  However, George is recorded as "Widower".  As he would only be 19, this doesn't seem right - and I've found no other earlier marriage.  So I am wondering is this the wrong George? Or was he born earlier and I have the parents and DOB wrong?  Even so, my searches haven't found an earlier marriage.  I have a feeling I've mixed up two different families...

The 2nd marriage certificate shows him correctly as 'widower', occupation Dyer, and father William (labourer).  William Summerscales and Martha Schofield were married in 1812.

Any information would be very much appreciated.  If you need me to provide any additional details please let me know.

Thanks All


Ms_C

[Milliepede]

Sorry I posted something you already have, Elizabeth was Holgate 

[Milliepede]

The George that died in 1887 has John Summerscales of 17 Back Street Halifax son the sole executor

I see the 6 children George & Elizabeth had include a son John. 

John of 17 Back Street died 1889.

Do you know if your John married a Hannah Maria?

[rosie99]

I wonder if these are relevant

SOMERSCALES, HENRY       mmn SMITH 
1839  June Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 22  Page 275
 
SOMMERSCALES, GEORGE       mmn SMITH 
1846  Mar Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 22  Page 287

SUMMERSCALES, ELIZABETH       mmn SMITH 
1848  Dec Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 22  Page 261

SUMMERSCALES, ROSANNA       mmn SMITH 
1852  March Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 09A  Page 386


ALSO

SOMERSCALE, WILLIAM       mmn SMITH 
1841  Jun Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 22  Page 269
Possible death
SOMERSCALE, WILLIAM       age 9 
GRO Reference: 1851  M Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 22  Page 206
..................

SUMMERSCALES, SARAH       mmn SMITH 
1843  Sep Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 22  Page 263
Possible death
SOMERSCALES, SARAH    age 2 
1845  Dec Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 22  Page 167

..............

SUMMERSCALES, MARIA    mmn   SMITH 
1854  Dec Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 09A  Page 335
Possible Death
SUMMERSCALE, MARIA       age 5 
1860  Sept Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 09A  Page 229

[rosie99]

Maria & Rose- Anne were baptised the same day at Halifax with parents George & Elizabeth of Southowram.
Rose-Anne born 8 January 1852
Maria born 9 November 1854

[rosie99]

Should it have been Elizabeth who showed as 'widowed' when she married George

William Holgate of Southowram occ Coal Miner
Elizabeth Smith of Southowram, spinster
Marriage 13 Feb 1831
Halifax, St John the Baptist

[ms_canuck]

Should it have been Elizabeth who showed as 'widowed' when she married George

William Holgate of Southowram occ Coal Miner
Elizabeth Smith of Southowram, spinster
Marriage 13 Feb 1831
Halifax, St John the Baptist

Hey!  That's interesting.  Perhaps that is the answer to my dilemma, so then William Holgate would have to have died before Oct 1833.  Let me go check that one out.

@millipede yes John married Hannah Maria, but I'm looking at John's mother - the 6 children haven't actually been too hard to find.

@Rosie99 will look at MMN Smith as noted above.

Thanks everyone

I will come back here shortly to provide an update!

Ms_C

[ms_canuck]

Well, that didn't take too long!

William Holgate (born 1809) marries Elizabeth Smith (aged 17) in 1831 as noted by Rosie99.    William dies in April 1832, aged 23.  They appear to have had a son, Thomas, born Jan 1832 and died in May 1833. Elizabeth then marries George Summerscales in October 1833.  And the Banns that show her as spinster and him as widower are incorrect. 

This seems to be the only explanation, and the facts really do fit together perfectly!

thanks again everyone for your help.

Ms_C

[rosie99]

Did young Thomas Holgate survive