Re: Aldershot 1941 Clear Group Picture + Question 2

[maddys52]

This topic has been split into 2 - this links to the original Photograph and posting
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=827872.0

Isabella Olive HARDING birth was registered Sept qtr 1904 at Isle of Wight (2b/603) with mother's maiden name SIBBICK.
There is a Henry George HARDING on the same page of the marriage register with Harriett Louisa SIBBICK Sept qtr 1903 at Isle of Wight (2b/1248) so this looks like a likely marriage.

Modified to add:
Harriett Louisa Jane HARDING (29, Isle of Wight) and Isabella Olive HARDING (6, Isle of Wight) in the 1911 census:
GBC/1911/RG14/03123/0229/5

Henry George HARDING (33, Lymington, Hampshire) in 1911 (at the same barracks)
GBC/1911/RG14/03123/0218/25

[maddys52]

Another child to Henry and Harriett appears to be (from the GRO),

  Harry Leonard (Jun qtr 1910, Isle of Wight 2b/587)

[maddys52]

Henry George HARDING birth registered Dec qtr 1877 at Lymington (2b/617), mmn PITMAN

This appears to be the family in 1891 at Whippingham:
James Hy Harding      38     Dorsetshire  (general labourer)
Mary I Harding           35     Somersetshire
Henry Geo Harding   13     Hampshire
Maud M Harding        12    Hampshire
Annie E Harding         10     Hampshire
Rosina Harding          10      Hampshire
Edward Jas Harding    8       Isle Of Wight
Kate E Harding            6       Isle Of Wight
Alfred J Harding          4       Wootton, Isle Of Wight
Frank Wm Harding     2      Isle Of Wight
Minnie L Harding       0      Isle Of Wight

RG12/886/ 128 pg48

However, in 1881 (at Lymington) father's name is George:
George Harding          28      Gillingham, Dorset  (ag lab)
Mary Harding              26       Somerset
Henry G Harding          4        Milford, Hampshire
Maud Harding              3        Milford, Hampshire
Elizabeth Twin Harding  1     Milford
Rose Twin Harding          1    Milford
William Pittman   Brother In Law     16   Gillingham, Somerset

RG11/1191/26 pg 6

[maddys52]

George James HARDING married Matilda PITMAN Mar qtr 1883 at Newport,M (11a,225) 

Modified to add:
No this looks better:
George HARDING and Mary PITTMAN Dec qtr 1876 at Lymington (2b/1229)

[maddys52]

This appears to be the family in 1901 at Newport:

George Harding     48    Gillingham, Dorsetshire  (cattleman on farm)
Mary Harding         45    Wincanton, Somersetshire
Edward Harding    18    Newport, Isle Of Wight   (carter on farm)
Alfred Harding      14     Newport, Isle Of Wight
Frank Harding       12     Newport, Isle Of Wight
Winnie Harding    10     Newport, Isle Of Wight
Fred Harding           8     Newport, Isle Of Wight


Can't easily see Henry George in 1901, will keep looking.

[maddys52]

On the other side of the family:

Harriett Louisa Jane SIBBICK birth registered Sept qtr 1881 Isle of Wight (2b/573) mmn DEACON

Oliver George SIBBECK married Louisa Jane DEACON Mar qtr 1881 Isle of Wight (2b/823)

They are in Whippingham in 1891:
Oliver Geo Sibbick       32     Isle Of Wight  (general labourer)
Louisa J Sibbick            27     Isle Of Wight
Hariett L Sibbick           9      Isle Of Wight
Isabella E J Sibbick       4       Isle Of Wight
Sarah J Deacon   Mother In Law   58   Berkshire

RG12/886/ 130 pg 51

In 1901 at Newport, Hampshire:
Oliver George Sibbick       42     Brading, Isle Of Wight (coal carman)
Louisa Sibbick                   36      Newport, Isle Of Wight
Harriet Sibbick                  19      Newport  (housemaid, domestic)
Isabella Sibbick                 14      Newport

[maddys52]

There is a family tree on familysearch (not always very accurate) which has Henry George HARDING died Oct 1917, Ieper, West Flanders, Belgium.

There is also a Henry George HARDING in a list of Army Honours and Promotions  in the Daily Telegraph, Friday,  Jan. 14, 1916, however the copy I can see is very blurred. I can't really read it, but it appears to Hampshire after his name.

[rosie99]

So, I have this picture and written on the back is "Mother & Dad, best love from son Eric. aldershot 20/12/41. Group of staff duties. course 48" as far as I can make out!

Perhaps it might help some of you or might be a picture of one of your relatives!

My great grandfather is Eric Robinson, bottom row 4th from the left.

Question 1: Is there any way I can find out more information about him from this? I don't know anything about the military or researching it..

Service records after 1920 are still with the MOD and not available online
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records

You will need his death certificate unless he died when still serving and the cost is £30

[MaxD]

Step one - follow Rosie's advice.  The photo is almost certainly of a group of Royal Army Service Corps clerks doing part of their training - you don't need that info or his service number for your application.

Lieutenant Henry George Harding Military Cross of 1st Battalion Hampshire Regiment aged 40 was killed in action 4 Oct 1917.  He has no known grave and is commemorated on the Tyne Cot memorial.  He was married to Harriet Louisa Harding of Brookville, 46 Green Road, Southsea, Hampshire.

This would seem to be the man identified by maddys52 - wife's name and age are right.  The honour found by maddys52 is likely to have been the MC won by him before he was commissioned when he was Sergeant Major but published after he became an officer.  The London Gazette 14 Jan 1916 refers.

The 1911 census adds up also, this was 1st Battalion Hampshires in Aldershot.  He was a Colour Sergeant then and had been a regular soldier since about the later part of 1894.

Airslie - if you are content that this is the man you are searching for then there is more to be found but it would help for you to come back first to save nugatory effort.

MaxD