Author Topic: Thomas Jenkin died 13 02 1772 Nantlech FArm LLanfihangel-ar-arth  (Read 1175 times)

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Thomas Jenkin died 13 02 1772 Nantlech FArm LLanfihangel-ar-arth
« on: Tuesday 07 April 20 16:13 BST (UK) »
We know that Thomas as above died 13 feb 1772..He left a so john one david one henry and daughters Elizabeth and sarah,.We would like to know who his father mother and wife were and any according dates. He died at a farm called Nantlech.Llanfihangel-ar-arth.Carms.Wales

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Re: Thomas Jenkin died 13 02 1772 Nantlech FArm LLanfihangel-ar-arth
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 17:24 BST (UK) »
To give some idea where Thomas may have married where and when were the children baptised.

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Re: Thomas Jenkin died 13 02 1772 Nantlech FArm LLanfihangel-ar-arth
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 17:43 BST (UK) »
there don't seem to be many records online for Llanfihangel ar Arth for the period you need.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llanfihangel-ar-Arth

The Bts have been filmed but don't seem to be on FamilySearch.

The only useful record I've found so far is the burial in the parish 12 May 1820 of Henry Jenkins aged 72 of Nantyllech. John Jenkins was noted as eldest son in the will of Thomas and inherited Nantyllech Ucha and Nantyllech Issa.

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Jenkin died 13 02 1772 Nantlech FArm LLanfihangel-ar-arth
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 18:12 BST (UK) »
https://historicplacenames.rcahmw.gov.uk/placenames/recordedname/8a7cc84b-c68f-4526-98a0-ae7288334bac

from the will, John was the eldest son, David the second son and Henry the third.

Another problem is that the names might be recorded in the patronymic form. I was checking a will from the parish for another Thomas Jenkin in 1765 and the surname of his children is given as Thomas. Just to add to the fun!

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Thomas Jenkin died 13 02 1772 Nantlech FArm LLanfihangel-ar-arth
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 April 20 13:49 BST (UK) »
we think thomas was born 1725/30.we are confused about wives    poss margaret  poss lydia  poss lyn....We think his father was john died 1720  4 april  leaving a wife mary  and sons  john thomas and daughter elinor.when john died he left farms at nantlech to mary and his lands in bangor teifi to son john.

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Re: Thomas Jenkin died 13 02 1772 Nantlech FArm LLanfihangel-ar-arth
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 April 20 13:56 BST (UK) »
if John died in 1720, how could his son Thomas be born 1725-1730?    ???

Henry was his third son and if that is his burial in 1820, he was born c. 1748.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Jenkin died 13 02 1772 Nantlech FArm LLanfihangel-ar-arth
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 April 20 14:36 BST (UK) »
the 1720 will for John Jenkin leaves property in Cardiganshire to older son John, property in Carmarthenshire - the Nant y Llech farms - to his wife Mary, younger son Thomas got 2 bullocks, a bushel of corn, a bed and half of his father's books and John requested that he would inherit the property from Mary. Wife Mary and daughter Eleanor are the executrices. Nothing to suggest that the children are very young, no guardians appointed. It's possible that Thomas was of age by the time the will was written in April 1720.

John was still alive when the will was written 4 April 1720. The inventory of the estate was made 13 April, so he had died by that date. Probate granted 7 May 1720.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Jenkin died 13 02 1772 Nantlech FArm LLanfihangel-ar-arth
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 April 20 16:11 BST (UK) »


rry.I have obviously made a mistake with my estimated birth date for Thomas.It must have been approx 1700/1710 Icannot find anything on Ancestry. does anyone have any furthur suggestions..When Thomas died he left Nantlech to eldest son john.He left Henfaes at llanllwni to second son david. and he left Cwmcraigan to his third son henry.    MY Next search is re son David who did he marry was it Hannah John or Mary Evan

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Re: Thomas Jenkin died 13 02 1772 Nantlech FArm LLanfihangel-ar-arth
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 April 20 16:49 BST (UK) »
you wont find anything on Ancestry. FindMyPast does have an amount of parish records for Wales, but not for the time you need in parish you're looking at. Baptisms and burials from 1787 and marriages from 1756 are at Carmarthenshire Record Office and the National Library. There are BTs for some earlier years available at the National Library. These have been filmed by the LDS, but don't seem to be on FamilySearch. The record office has a long standing problem and records have been transferred to the Glamorgan Archives. The archives, the National Library and LDS centres are not open at this time.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb