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Elizabeth Smith (nee Purdy/Howard)
« on: Wednesday 08 April 20 03:59 BST (UK) »
parents  Isaac and Betty Howard bap. 1827 St Chads Rochdale, Lancs. m William PURDY 1847 Rochdale Lancs William died April 1874 in Liverpool, NSW. June 1874 she marries George Smith, she was 48 he was  55. When did she die? Nothing mentioned on children's certs, not her in Hay or Goulburn. Any ideas please. No Trove articles.
Gray, Madigan, Purdy, Churchwood.

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Re: ELIZABETH SMITH (nee PURDY/HOWARD)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 04:56 BST (UK) »
Can you please list all the information on the marriage certificate, 1874.....Elizabeth.....and George.

If we can locate a death for George it might lead to death date / place for wife Elizabeth.

What children do you have for William PURDY and Elizabeth HOWARD?.

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Re: ELIZABETH SMITH (nee PURDY/HOWARD)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 06:10 BST (UK) »
Was this Elizabeth nee (=born as) HOWARD?
Did she marry PURDY?
Did she then marry SMITH?

So she was nee HOWARD, formerly PURDY, Died as SMITH?

Or ...?

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Re: ELIZABETH SMITH (nee PURDY/HOWARD)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 06:53 BST (UK) »
M/C  for Elizabeth, widow and George,widower 22 June 1874 usual place of residence for both Newtown NSW his father Abraham, POULTERER her father Isaac weaver, both mothers unknown. At the registry office Newtown. witnesses were ex neighbours from Liverpool the Painters. Yes born Howard and 1st marriage to Purdy. From research they were living at Collingwood, big house in Liverpool . George was witness at Purdy burial. At one stage Elizabeth and William living in Goulburn he was a plasterer, family business in Lancs. Children from marriage Jacob 1833,Thomas 1849,Levi 1851-1931, Susan 1853-1924. Elizabeth my gt gd mother so not all that far distant. Putting feelers out for help as she has been my enigma for many years. Any advice would be most welcome.
Gray, Madigan, Purdy, Churchwood.

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Re: ELIZABETH SMITH (nee PURDY/HOWARD)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 07:19 BST (UK) »
What denomination for burial of William PURDY ...

How certain are you that George SMITH  the witness on April 1874 burial is same person on June 1874 marriage ...

Liverpool NSW in 1870s covered huge district as far north as where Eastern Creek is.

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Re: ELIZABETH SMITH (nee PURDY/HOWARD)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 07:28 BST (UK) »
William buried in Pioneer cem at Liverpool. Church of England. (from Liverpool FH group sources/. Not at all sure if George was one and the same just 'assumed', seemed a coincidence and probability to me .
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Re: ELIZABETH SMITH (nee PURDY/HOWARD)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 07:39 BST (UK) »


Can you please list all the information on the marriage certificate, 1874.....Elizabeth.....and George.

You are leaving out details that will be on the certificate.

Do you see a signature for George SMITH on the death certificate, 1874, and for George SMITH on the marriage certificate, 1874.

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Re: ELIZABETH SMITH (nee PURDY/HOWARD)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 07:46 BST (UK) »
Quite a number of chaps in Liverpool district in 1870s who were named George SMITH, add also those as Geo SMITH ....

Plus the ones in the Newtown District also a large area in 1870s...

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Re: ELIZABETH SMITH (nee PURDY/HOWARD)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 09:02 BST (UK) »
You have said
Children from marriage Jacob 1833,Thomas 1849,Levi 1851-1931, Susan 1853-1924.

I assume this is from her 1847 marriage to William PURDY and if so please could you give the correct date for Jacob

And these children registered in NSW, parents William, Elizabeth
1856 William E PURDY, reg O'Connell Town, #2184  - died 1857 (reg Glebe, #1627)
1858 William, reg Glebe,  #2568 - died 1917 (reg Kogarah, #4219)
1859 Sarah A, reg Goulburn #7572 - died 1861 (reg Goulburn, #2912)
1862 Mary J PURDAY, reg Goulburn #7616

Have you definitely ruled out the Elizabeth SMITH died in Hay 1879?  I know the mother's name is incorrect in the index record.
NSW 1879 Elizabeth SMITH, reg Hay #5975
Parents: Isaac D, Alexandrina 

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