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Emily Est(h)er Thomas b.1860 Ticehurst
« on: Thursday 09 April 20 08:02 BST (UK) »
I am looking for the parents of the above person
GRO has no mmn, suggesting she was illigitimate.
In 1861 she was living with Sarah Tommas (b1811) in Wadhurst, described as lodger. I think she was Sarah's granddaughter.
In 1871 she was living with her 'mother' Frances (married to Henry Ford, but after the birth of Emily Esther). Frances, daughter of Sarah Tommas/Thomas.
When Esther got married in 1882 to William Thomas Morris, she gave her father as Isaac Thomas. Sarah Tommas/Thomas had a son called Isaac. I can't find any sign of Isaac after 1851 (living with his family in Wadhurst).
I'd be very grateful if someone could help. The only conclusion I can come to is that she was the result of an incestuous relationship between Isaac and his sister, after which he disappeared. There is another Isaac Thomas living in Estry, Kent, who married Louisa Taylor in 1844, but I don't think there is a connection.
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Re: Emily Est(h)er Thomas b.1860 Ticehurst
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 April 20 08:09 BST (UK) »

In 1861 she was living with Sarah Tommas (b1811) in Wadhurst, described as lodger. I think she was Sarah's granddaughter.
In 1871 she was living with her 'mother' Frances (married to Henry Ford, but after the birth of Emily Esther). Frances, daughter of Sarah Tommas/Thomas.

Is this not her in 1861
Frances   Tommas   Widow   50   bn Wadhurst, Sussex
Frances   Tommas   Dtr   22   bn Wadhurst
James   Tommas   Son   20   bn Wadhurst
Josiah   Tommas   Son   10   bn Wadhurst
Emily   Tommas   Boarder   -   1   bnTicehurst, Sussex
RG09/572 f22 p14
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Re: Emily Est(h)er Thomas b.1860 Ticehurst
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 April 20 08:32 BST (UK) »
I would treat the information about her father being Isaac Thomas as possible fiction.  People often invented fathers at marriage
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Re: Emily Est(h)er Thomas b.1860 Ticehurst
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 April 20 08:51 BST (UK) »
Her birth in Ticehurst Union workhouse?
6 Feb 1860
Female born to Fanny Thomas of Wadhurst
Baptism name -- Esther Elizth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D4C4-5P?i=13&cat=693341

Above is (Ellen), daughter of Hannah Stapley, born 5 Feb, who has same GRO ref as Emily Ester (March 1860, 2b 74).

Marriage of Frances Thomas to Henry Ford, 20 April 1863, Wadhurst
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6S2S-5P3

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Re: Emily Est(h)er Thomas b.1860 Ticehurst
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 April 20 09:25 BST (UK) »
Image of Thomas family in 1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99L2-WDV8?i=49&cat=518088

Mum is usually Sarah, but not on this one!

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Re: Emily Est(h)er Thomas b.1860 Ticehurst
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 April 20 08:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that. Iíll check those things out.
Did anyone find Isaac Thomas, last heard of in 1851?