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PHAIR, Cork city
« on: Saturday 11 April 20 17:33 BST (UK) »
Herbert Phair and Anne Magner, both born abt 1833. Had kids Anne, Margaret and Patrick, all born late 1860's to early 1870's. Checked nearest church records, but the closest, st. vincents, not available online. Looking for marriage and birth records, have civil birth records for Anne and Margaret. Any help or advice greatly appreciated, thank you, Rob

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Re: PHAIR, Cork city
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 April 20 10:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,
As they were born in the 1860's use this...…..
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

Going by Anne's birth, see link, it gives Herbert's occupation
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03523/2296216.pdf

This is Herbert's death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1878/020498/7192971.pdf
Mary's birth 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03190/2169755.pdf

This next record is listed in Ancestry (easier to search) you will have to look in St Mary's Cork.
 
Elizabeth Phair   15 November 1863

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Re: PHAIR, Cork city
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 April 20 11:27 BST (UK) »
Hi I just found this..

16th June 1861 Catherine to Herbert and Anne (Magner)
Mallow 
There is another couple …….Herbert Phair and a Ellen Magner in Kanturk
I can't see the marriage.

There is an Edward Manger in Mallow in 1851 in Griffiths Valuation, townland of Ballyviniter.
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Re: PHAIR, Cork city
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 April 20 15:54 BST (UK) »
Maggsie, thank you so very much for your time and effort. I did not know about Mary or Catherine. Herbert and Anne must have married earlier than I thought....have to readjust my search timeline. Sincere gratitude, Rob

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Re: PHAIR, Cork city
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 April 20 17:54 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Glad to help.
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Re: PHAIR, Cork city
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 April 20 22:29 BST (UK) »
If the death record for Herbert is correct (and I believe it is), he would have been born 1804. If so, he would have been 57 at the time of Catherine's birth and 69 at the time of Mary's. In your experience, how unusual is this? Again, any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Rob

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Re: PHAIR, Cork city
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 April 20 06:15 BST (UK) »
Hmm  Slaters Directory 1881

Herbert Phair 7.1 North Main St,Tobacco Manufacturer

right hand side just opposite where it say's page 79 just after Perry and Petty
http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/places/streetandtradedirectories/1881slatersdirectorylmx/files/assets/basic-html/page78.html

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Re: PHAIR, Cork city
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 April 20 08:17 BST (UK) »
1846 Slaters Directory Bandon and Neighbourhood
 Magner Edward,Publican and Mail Coach agent,Shannon Street
 Phairs Herbert ,Shopkeeper and dealer in sundries,Shannon Street

https://www.corkgen.org/publicgenealogy/cork/potpourri/corkancestors.com/Bandon.htm

also on Griffith's Valuation 1851 Ballymodan
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0017

Oct 5th 1862   Herbert Phair to Ellen Callanan
right hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632435#page/21/mode/1up
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