My Ramsays, and all the other families that they married into

[Wendy2305]

Hi Jim sorry I haven't any information about the Mary Ramsay that married David McKiddie do you know where there children were born or where any lived

[jbundy48]

Hi again Wendy. All I have on those children are the following:
Hugh born 1767 Elspet born 1768 Alexander born 1769 John born 1771 Elisabeth born 1773
James born 1781.
BTW, we live at Centralia Wa USA, and I spend a lot of time on my genealogy these days, inside our house, when not working in our yard or walking around the neighborhood. It's very quiet around here these days and the air quality is nice.
Jim 

[Wendy2305]

I think I have found them I have found 7 children born to a David McKeddy/McKeddie no mother mentioned children baptised in Glamis Angus
Here is a link to the Find a Grave memorial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/191682242
Do you have Angus MI book as it should be in there

[jbundy48]

Hi,
The following note is all I have on that family, from the email of 20 years ago:
From: Betty Crowe bcrowe@@drlogick.com To: lyndab@@ameritech.net lyndab@@ameritech.net Date: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: WHITTON lyndab@@ameritech.net February 09, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: WHITTON
and RAMSAY Hello Lynda: I am interested In both WHITTON and RAMSAY In Angus Co. In my research, I have David MCKIDDIE born 14 June 1741 In Newton of Glamis, Forfarshire, Scotland, and died 25 December 1796 In Newton of Glamis, Forfarshire, Scotland. Stone at Glamis Kirkyard erected by David MCKIDDIE/Mary RAMSAY at Newton of Glamis In memory of three children; John, Elisabeth, Elpet MCKIDDIE. He married Mary RAMSAY about 1766 In Glamis, Forfarshire, Scotland. Mary was born (unknown), and died after 1781 In Scotland.
I don't know how or if Mary is someone in our Ramsay family.
Jim

[jbundy48]

Wendy,
I may have found something interesting just now. First was the birth of Euphemia Ramsay daughter of Samuel Ramsay and Isabel "Key" at Kirkden in 1837, and then in 1861 a Euphemia Ferrier age 24 with a daughter Isabella H Ferrier aged 3 months at Friockheim Kirkden. No father or any other person present. Under occupation she was list as Heamars Wife M S, indicating husband(?) being some kind of a Male Servant. Could this be a breakthrough?
Jim   

[Wendy2305]

Have dug around for my notes and yes that's her
In 1841 living with Isabel and Euphemia is Ann Hay possibly a sister and Isabel's parents were George Hay and Jean Cathrow
Isabel Hay remarried after Samuels death in 1843 at Kirkden to a James Ross found them in 1851 and died in Arbroath in 1872
Euphemia went onto marry John Ferrier in 1858 in Arbroath they had 8 children
Isabella Hay  b1861, Helen Taylor b1864 , Jane Bowman b 1866, John b 1869, Andrew b 1871, Julia b and died 1875 Georgina Black b 1878 d 1911 and Euphemia b1888
All children born in Arbroath
Father John died 1907 and mother Euphemia died 1914 both Arbroath
That's as far as I got

[jbundy48]

Generation 5 note 7
ii. ROBERT RAMSAY was born in Dec 1803 in Glamis, Angus, Scotland. He married
Catharine LINDSAY on 28 Feb 1829 in St Vigeans, Angus Scotland. She was born in 1805.
Notes for Robert RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Robert RAMSAY Gender: Male Baptism Date: 21 Dec 1803 Baptism Place: Glamis,Angus,Scotland Father: Peter RAMSAY FHL Film Number: 993434

1841 Scotland Census Name: Robert RAMSAY Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Glamis County: Address: Grass Houses Of Thornton
Occupation: Ag Lab Parish Number: 289 Household Members: Name Age Robert RAMSAY 40 Isabell RAMSAY 40 Alexander RAMSAY 15 John RAMSAY 15 Janet RAMSAY 10 George RAMSAY 5 David RAMSAY 3

1861 Scotland Census Name: Robert RAMSAY Age: 56 Estimated birth year: abt 1805 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Catharine L RAMSAY Gender: Male Where born: Glamis,
Forfarshire Registration Number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil Parish: Arbroath Town: Arbroath County: Address: Old Loll House Occupation: Road Labourer ED: 11 Household schedule number: 5 LINE: 16 Roll: CSSCT1861_36 Household Members: Name Age Robert RAMSAY 56 Catharine L RAMSAY 56

1871 Scotland Census Name: Robert RAMSAY Age: 66 Estimated birth year: abt 1805 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Catherine Lindesay RAMSAY Gender: Male Where born: Glamis, Forfarshire Registration Number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil Parish: Arbroath Town: Arb County: Address: Fortal Road Bllnd Toll Occupation: Labourer On Turshihe Rd ED: 30 Household schedule number: 5 LINE: 19 Roll: CSSCT1871_47 Household Members: Name Age Robert RAMSAY 66 Catherine Lindesay RAMSAY 64 Peter RAMSAY 62

1881 Scotland Census Name: Robert RAMSAY Age: 77 Estimated birth year: abt 1804 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Catherine RAMSAY Gender: Male Where born: Glamis, Forfarshire Registration Number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil Parish: St Vigeans County: Address: Little Cairn Occupation: General Labourer ED: 28 Household schedule number: 14 LINE: 16 Roll: cssct1881_76 Household Members: Name Age Robert RAMSAY 77 Catherin RAMSAY 74

iii. JOHN RAMSAY was born in 1805 in Kirriemuir, Angus, Scotland. He died on 22 Sep
1887 in 65 Sydney St., St Vigeans, Angus, Scotland.
Notes for John RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: John RAMSAY Gender: Male Baptism Date: 3 Oct 1805 Baptism Place: Kirriemuir,Angus,Scotland Father: Peter RAMSAY Mother: Isabel WEIGHTON FHL Film Number: 993443

1841 Scotland Census Name: John RAMSAY Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Inverkeillor County: Address: Knowes Of Muirhouse Occupation: Farmer Parish Number: 293 Household Members: Name Age John RAMSAY 35 Mary RAMSAY 30 Alexander RAMSAY 14 Isabel RAMSAY 12 Charlotte RAMSAY 10 Robert RAMSAY 8 George RAMSAY 6 John RAMSAY 4 David RAMSAY 6 Mo Peter RAMSAY 30 Piece: SCT1841/293 Place: Inverkeillor -Angus Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: Inverkeillor Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 0 Page: 12 Address: Knowes Of Muirhouse Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks RAMSAY John M 35 Farmer Angus RAMSAY Mary F 30 Angus RAMSAY Alexander M 14 Angus RAMSAY Isabel F 12 Angus RAMSAY Charlotte F 10 Angus RAMSAY Robert M 8 Angus RAMSAY George M 6 Angus RAMSAY John M 4 Angus RAMSAY David M 6m Angus RAMSAY Peter M 30 Ag Labourer Angus

1861 Scotland Census Name: John RAMSAY Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Mary RAMSAY Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 293 Registration district: Inverkeillor Civil Parish: Inverkeillor County: Address: Douglas Muir Farm Occupation: Ag Lab ED: 5 Household schedule number: 71
LINE: 9 Roll: CSSCT1861_43 Household Members: Name Age John RAMSAY 55 Mary RAMSAY 54 Betsy RAMSAY 15 Andrew RAMSAY 10 Ann A RAMSAY 7

1871 Scotland Census Name: John RAMSAY Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil Parish: Arbroath Town: Arbroath County: Address: Carnie Toll Occupation: Caster ED: 21 Household schedule number: 1 LINE: 1 Roll: CSSCT1871_47 Household Members: Name Age John RAMSAY 65 Mary Ann RAMSAY 26 Betsy RAMSAY 24 David KENNEDE 1

1881 Scotland Census Name: John RAMSAY Age: 75 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: Kimemair, Forfarshire (Kirriemuir) Registration Number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil Parish: St Vigeans County: Address: 20 Brechin Road Occupation: General Labourer ED: 17 Household schedule number: 54 LINE: 5 Roll: cssct1881_76 Household Members: Name Age John RAMSAY 75 Mary Ann RAMSAY 35 Ann RAMSAY 27 David KINNEAR 11

[jbundy48]

Generation 5 Note 8

iv. PETER RAMSAY was born in 1807 in Kirriemuir, Angus, Scotland. He died on 22 Sep
1887 in 65 Sydney St, St Vigeans, Angus (Disease of Heart).

Notes for Peter RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Peter RAMSAY Gender: Male Baptism Date: 15 Aug 1807 Baptism Place: Kirriemuir,Angus,Scotland Father: Peter RAMSAY Mother: Isabel WEIGHTON FHL Film Number: 993443

Piece: SCT1841/293 Place: Inverkeillor -Angus Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: Inverkeillor Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 0 Page: 12 Address: Knowes Of Muirhouse Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks RAMSAY John M 35 Farmer Angus RAMSAY Mary F 30 Angus RAMSAY Alexander M 14 Angus RAMSAY Isabel F 12 Angus RAMSAY Charlotte F 10 Angus RAMSAY Robert M 8 Angus RAMSAY George M 6 Angus RAMSAY John M 4 Angus RAMSAY David M 6m Angus RAMSAY Peter M 30 Ag Labourer Angus

1871 Scotland Census Name: Peter RAMSAY Age: 62 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relationship: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil Parish: Arbroath Town: Arbroath County: Address: Fortal Road Bllnd Toll Occupation: Labourer ED: 30 Household schedule number: 5 LINE: 21 Roll: CSSCT1871_47 Household Members: Name Age Robert RAMSAY 66 Catherine Lindesay RAMSAY 64 Peter RAMSAY 62

UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current Name: Peter RAMSAY Death Date: 1887 Cemetery: Western Cemetery, Arbroath Burial or Cremation Place: Arbroath, Angus, Scotland Has Bio?: N 1887 272 344 Peter RAMSAY, gardiner, single died 22 Sep 1887 at 65 Sydney St, St Vigeans, age 80 parents Peter RAMSAY and Isabella WIGHTMAN cause Disease of Heart reported by ? BATCHELOR (can't read first name), nephew by marriage right family?

v. WILLIAM RAMSAY was born in 1809 in of Kirriemuir, Angus, Scot.. He died on 22 Sep
1887 in 65 Sydney St, St Vigeans, Angus, Scotland.

Notes for William RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: William RAMSAY Gender: Male Baptism Date: 25 Jul 1809 Baptism Place: Kirriemuir,Angus,Scotland Father: Peter RAMSAY Mother: Isabel WIGHTON FHL Film Number: 993443

 right family? Piece: SCT1841/274 Place: Barry-Angus Enumeration District: 12 Civil Parish:
Barry Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Carnoustie Folio: 12 Page: 4 Address:
Village Of Carnoustie Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks RAMSAY William M 30 Linen Hand Loom Weaver Angus RAMSAY Ann F 30 Angus RAMSAY James M 4 Angus RAMSAY David M 3 Angus RAMSAY Ann F 1m Angus

1851 Scotland Census Name: William RAMSAY Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relationship: Head Spouse: Janet RAMSAY Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Parish Number: 338 Civil Parish: Cargill Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Perthshire Address: Roadside Occupation: Labourer ED: 5 Page: 4 Household schedule number: 18 LINE: 14 Roll: CSSCT1851_73 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 42 Janet RAMSAY 36

1881 Scotland Census Name: William RAMSAY Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Janet RAMSAY Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 338 Registration district: Cargill Civil Parish: Cargill County: Perthshire Address: Road Occupation: Agricultural Labourer ED: 4 Household schedule number: 20 LINE: 9 Roll: cssct1881_101 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 70 Janet
RAMSAY 65

[jbundy48]

Generation 5 Note 9 (the final note for Generation 5

vi. JAMES RAMSAY was born in Jan 1812 in Kirriemuir, Angus, Scot.. He died on 03 Feb
1892 in Lilybank Brechin Road, Kirriemuir, Angus, Scotland (cardiac Disease (Mitral
valve)). He married Janet Aka Jessie JAMES, daughter of Charles JAMES and
Elizabeth ARCHIBALD, on 13 Dec 1845 in Kinnettles,Angus,Scotland (Forfar). She
was born on 16 Dec 1823 in Longforgan, Perth, Scotland. She died on 11 Jul 1896
in 16 Valeview Terrace, Langside, Glasgow (gangrene (senile) of foot, 1 1/2
months).

vii. DAVID RAMSAY was born in Nov 1814 in Kirriemuir, Angus, Scot.. He died on 06 Mar
1889 in Findo-Gask, Perthshire, Scotland.

Notes for David RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: David RAMSAY Gender:
Male Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1814 Baptism Place: Kirriemuir,Angus,Scotland Father:
Peter RAMSAY Mother: Isobel WIGHTER FHL Film Number: 993443

viii. GEORGE RAMSAY was born about 1816 in Leven, Fifeshire. He died in 1864 in Dundee,
Angus, Scotland.


DAVID5 RAMSAY (David4, David3, George2, George1) was born in Nov 1755 in Barry, Angus, Scotland. He died on 24 Mar 1846 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland (Old Age). He married Isabel HILL, daughter of William HILL, on 12 Apr 1783 in Dun, Angus, Scotland. She was born in 1759 in of Monifieth, Angus, Scotland.

Notes for David RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: David RAMSAY Gender: Male Baptism
Date: 26 Nov 1755 Baptism Place: Barry,Angus,Scotland Father: Da. RAMSAY Mother: Margaret
RAMSAY FHL Film Number: 993410

1841 Scotland Census Name: David RAMSAY Age: 85 Estimated birth year: abt 1756 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: Blackness Road Parish Number: 282 Household Members: Name Age David RAMSAY 85 Isabell RAMSAY 64 Elisabeth FORESTER 25 Lydia FORESTER 20 Grace LIVINGSTON 20

David RAMSAY and Isabel HILL had the following children:

i. DAVID6 RAMSAY was born on 09 Jan 1785 in Lundie, Angus, Scot.. He died.


ii. THOMAS RAMSAY was born in Jul 1787 in Monifieth, Angus, Scotland. He died.

iii. GEORGE RAMSAY was born in May 1791 in Fowlis Easter,Perth,Scotland. He died.

iv. CHARLOTTE RAMSAY. She died.

v. JANET RAMSAY. She died.

vi. ROBERT RAMSAY. He died.