A Dec. Q. 1843 Marriage between Joseph Charles BALL and Eliza GOODYER, Ringwood

[Keith Sherwood]

Shaun,
Just been looking, hadn't realised they were so accessible now.  Have printed out both Joseph BALL's 1823 will, and his daughter Sophia's 1843 will.  The latter is written in much bigger, clearer script than the 1823 one, and is easier to make out.  In the same way that images of the 1841 Census are so difficult to read at times, whereas subsequent ones, if you've got an enumerator with a good handwriting, are a whole lot simpler to read.   Mustn't grumble though, quite the opposite.
Keith
Posts crossed, thanks very much for the further info re Josiah and Susannah

[LizzieL]

May be connected.
There is a Caroline BALL age 20 nbic occ Ind with Eliza Goodyer's family in Ringwood.
Eliza is with parents George (publican) and Prudence and younger sister Mary.

Piece 398 Book 22 Folio 4 Page 3

her sister Mary is with Joseph and Eliza in 1851. George and Prudence died 1846 and 1843 respectively.

[Keith Sherwood]

Hi, Lizzie,
And thanks so much for taking the time and trouble to search this out for me!
That spot of yours raises all sorts of interesting questions which I must now look into and try and find the answers to...
Very best wishes, Keith

[LizzieL]

Hi Keith. There's an 1823 PCC will for Joseph Ball, miller, of New Sarum who I think is your man's grandfather. It mentions daughter Sophia and son Josiah, and also a servant Sarah Glendenning who is with Sophia in 1841 (and is also mentioned in Sophia's 1843 will).

On the marriage record for Josiah Ball and Catherine Curtis on 10 Dec 1812 at Bishopstone, witnesses are Sophia Ball, Ralph Curtis and Elizabeth Curtis. Josiah of Sherfield in County of Southampton and Catherine otp, by licence. All parties signed.

[LizzieL]

May be connected.
There is a Caroline BALL age 20 nbic occ Ind with Eliza Goodyer's family in Ringwood.
Eliza is with parents George (publican) and Prudence and younger sister Mary.

Piece 398 Book 22 Folio 4 Page 3

her sister Mary is with Joseph and Eliza in 1851. George and Prudence died 1846 and 1843 respectively.

Just noticed there's a Fanny CURTIS in the Goodyer household as well also age 20. She's a servant and was born in county (Hants). Could be coincidence but she might be connected to Joseph's mother's family.

[LizzieL]

There's a Caroline Ball bapt in Bemerton, Wilts on 3 Nov 1816 d/o Josiah and Catherine. he is described as yeoman. Fits with rounded age on '41 census. So looks like she's Joseph's brother.

[Keith Sherwood]

Gosh, Lizzie,
This is getting even more interesting now, with this extra information.
I've spent the last hour or so with a magnifying glass trying to decipher both Joseph BALL's will of 1823, and also his daughter Sophia's will of 1843.
They both had the same woman servant, a Sarah Glendenning, who must have been very good and very devoted, as she does well out of both wills.
I'm having trouble trying to fit Joseph Charles into the scheme of things, even though he has the BALL surname and seems to be connected, he very much seems on the periphery at times of the milling business, particularly as in the 1861 Census at The Town Mil, Salisbury he refers to himself as "miller (journeyman), whereas a James Sidford in the household, 21 years his junior, dubs himself "miller (master)".
Maybe Joseph Charles's heart wasn't quite in the milling business.  His baptism in Sherfield in Hampshire in 1813 to parents Josiah and Catharine (nee Curtis) absolutely seems to fit in with things, especially with what you've posted the last twice.
Keith
Posts crossed just then, need to take this in...

[LizzieL]

Caroline possibly married John Atkins a widowed schoolmaster on 20 Sept 1842 in Tidcombe, Wilts. Her abode is Fosbury, his is Fordingbridge. The witnesses are Frances Curtis ball and Henry Curtis. Ancestry has two marriage records. One in the post 1837 format and one in the pre-1837 format. Don't know why the vicar was still using the old record book. I have seen dual entries just after 1st July 1837 and wondered whether there had been delay in church getting the new register. There is no father's name / occupation in the record to confirm the right Caroline.

[LizzieL]

Francis Curtis Ball bapt 31 May 1815 Sherfield English d/o Josiah and Catherine. I think she is the one in 1841. Another sister to Joseph.