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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 30 April 20 11:19 BST (UK) »
The Wiles at Somerscales road in 1950s
There's a photo of my aunt with her mother in law francis Gertrude
 husband
WILES
And son G F /WILES who was a football er

a in the back yard
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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #28 on: Friday 19 June 20 18:32 BST (UK) »
Update
There was supposed to be a photo attached to last post
Sorry

My uncles (George Edward Dobson) second wife Ann died in 2000

Awaiting marriage cert of his parents John W DOBSON + Francis Gertrude FULLAGAR
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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #29 on: Friday 07 August 20 18:41 BST (UK) »
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 MARCH ,1828 church of England marriage cert sculcoates Yorks

 john William DOBSON  age 25  soldier 107 wollesgate Beverley
Father james DOBSON deceased miner

Gertrude frances FULLAGER ,21 ,spinster ,6 derby st

Her father given as frederick Fulager tailor ...not stated as deceased
Which doesnt fit with information in other records

Witnesses mrs F Fullager & H ? L ,? Widdall
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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #30 on: Friday 07 August 20 22:23 BST (UK) »
The only James Dobson miner I can find in Yorkshire emigrated to Usa as did two of his siblings
He married there 1888 so .could not have been father of John William DOBSON

Am I missing something , I thought the marriage certificate of john william would help find more about him.
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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 08 August 20 22:44 BST (UK) »
There are a few candidates for John William DOBSON b abt 1903

1911 age 8
,with grandparents George and Sarah Mason .

Or in 1819 age 15 airforce training citing ames cochrane as next of kin farher

im trying to establish links as I dont know his mothers name
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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 10 August 20 19:36 BST (UK) »
John William DOBSON is a real enigma

The clues so far havent helped much
There is a railways employees list on ancestry has
J DOBSON for london and northeastern railway
It has a date of birth as 5 sep 1903
But joining in 1940
And leaving in nov 1942 ..
It says S or B / porter which isn't same as buffet attendant stated on sons wedding cert .

The one with James COckburne as nok is born Newcastle upon Tyne

Which means he cant be the john William DOBSON who died sculcoats ,1933

I need to choose which birth certificate or death certificate to send for .
If cousin does DNA we may learn which line to follow .



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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #33 on: Monday 10 August 20 20:58 BST (UK) »
Potential grandmother for John William DOBSON
had a complicated life having 1 daughter before marriage then marrying husband two while husband one still alive.

Here is link to topic about her  (Sarah Dobson Williamson Mason.1858)

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=835630.0

I wonder if  Francis Gertrude Fullager could have done the same ! Marrying again before John William DOBSON s death

 Havent found a definite death for either yet.

 she may eveen have had a third husband

After Mr Wiles died in WW 2

 her grandson has vague memories of someone being with her in 1970.s
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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 11 August 20 17:28 BST (UK) »
Im not very good at freebmd searches but

IF
john William DOBSON is the one b1902 sep Quarter  York no mmn

Then the nearest corresponding death would seem to be
Dec 1977 Gateshead with dob 23 nov 1902

Could someone please confirm my logic on that .
I dont know if any of the other john William DOBSON had no mother names.
How do you tell from information given ?

He married in Saltcoates  1928..son George edward born there ,1931
But son Ronald b Farnham Surrey 1930

The death in 1933 saltcoats is an  older john William DOBSON.
#,correction age at death 32 ,so coud be right one
Have sent off for certificate

The wedding cert threw a spanner in works because wife is
Gertrude frances Fullager
father Frederick a tailor living in Derby st
BEVERLEY


Francis Gertrude b 18 jan 1907 has father George Edward FULLAGER grocer died in WW1

I havent found records of Frederick the tailor .


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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 12:45 BST (UK) »
Have sent for birth of one of the john William DOBSON with no named father. 

Hopefully it will tie in to death certificate...long wait with GRO
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