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Surnames Barclay and Murdoch
« on: Monday 11 May 20 05:12 BST (UK) »
When a name is typed as Margaret (sic) formerly Bell. Also calls herself margaret Barclay, but also married a Murdoch.  Finding it very hard to find her death certificate in Australia

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Re: Surnames Barclay and Murdoch
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 May 20 11:47 BST (UK) »
Hi roslyn246, and welcome to RootsChat.

I'm afraid I don't quite understand your question. Please tell us everything you know about your mystery Margaret including dates and places, and then we will see if we can help.
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Re: Surnames Barclay and Murdoch
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 May 20 05:07 BST (UK) »
Margarets birth place is Kilbirnie as stated on children birth cert. What doesn't help in trying to find information on her in Australia as she signed her marriage cert. in 1885 as Margaret Bell Barclay.
Then on the children birth she puts Margaret Bell or Margaret Barclay and also Margaret (sic) Bell Barclay. Having trouble finding out what her maiden name is at birth.

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Re: Surnames Barclay and Murdoch
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 May 20 09:45 BST (UK) »
Without a bit more information it is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Kilbirnie is a step in the right direction, but not enough.

How old was she when she married? Whom did she marry? Where did she marry? What were the names of her children, in order of birth? Does her marriage certificate mention the names of either of her parents?
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Re: Surnames Barclay and Murdoch
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 May 20 11:34 BST (UK) »
Is it New South Wales ?
Marriage 1885 , John Murdoch / Margaret B Barclay , Balmain NSW.

Could her death certificate provide any more details ?


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Re: Surnames Barclay and Murdoch
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 May 20 14:37 BST (UK) »
Quite a few births for Margaret Barclay in Kilbirnie.

Any idea when she arrived in Australia?

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Re: Surnames Barclay and Murdoch
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 May 20 15:04 BST (UK) »
What is the source of her birth place being Kilbirnie? Is it from her marriage entry or some other document? Added: Must read slower! Sorry. See you mention that Kilbirnie shows as her birth place on one of her children's birth regs.

Normally where you have the use of two surnames like this, it could imply that Margaret was illegitimate and used either her mother's maiden name or reputed father's surname.

I see some researchers are quoting this birth for her www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY51-12Q

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Re: Surnames Barclay and Murdoch
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 May 20 02:00 BST (UK) »
Quote from: ev on Wednesday 13 May 20 11:34 BST (UK)

Could her death certificate provide any more details ?

Roslyn hasn't been able to find death certificate.
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Re: Surnames Barclay and Murdoch
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 May 20 03:17 BST (UK) »
Hi
Her marriage cert. states Glasgow Scotland. 
Children:
Jane B 1886-Margaret B
John    1887-Maggie - formerly Barclay-Scotland
Margaret 1889- Margaret formerly Bell-Kilbirnie Scotland (Copy of orig.)
Janet 1892 -Margaret (sic)formerly Bell-Kilbirnie Scotland
Alexander 1894 -Margaret
Agnes 1896 -Margaret
Christina 1902 -Margaret Bell-Kilbirnie Scotland
2 yrs after Christina birth Margaret left the family. My grandmother Margaret didn't her from her again. Christina was left with a family in Windsor NSW. I have not been able to find her death.
Thank you for looking into this.
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