General discussion on current situation

[Mike in Cumbria]

I wonder why there is not any uproar on this forum about the following Labour MPs who have flouted the lockdown rules …..

I'm pretty sure that if they were the party in power,  making the rules and telling everyone to stay at home, they would have been receiving exactly the same attention.

[LizzieL]

I wonder why there is not any uproar on this forum about the following Labour MPs who have flouted the lockdown rules whereas there has been a lot of outrage stirred up in the main by the media being consevative with the truth and indeed lying about events about Dominic Cummins. Who according to not only the written down lockdown laws and guidelines has not broken any laws or rules, even the Attorney General, Suella Braverman  has stated Dominic Cummings has broken no laws.

Welsh Secretary Vaughan Gething  who went for exercise  in Wales (allowed) but stopped to eat with his family at a time when such picnics were prohibited

Steven Kinnock who drove hundreds of miles to see his parents on his dad's birthday and was urged by the police to obey the regulations

Tahir Ali who went to a funeral with many other people (Birmingham City Council limits mourners at a funeral to six ) and was criticised as "totally irresponsible" by West Midlands Police and Crime Commissioner, David Jamieson.  (Gatherings in public of more than two people who do not share a household have been banned under coronavirus lockdown measures.)

 Kevan Jones (Durham MP) breaking the rules, along with some police officers, to attend a VE Day-themed birthday party for a 100-year-old constituent.

Cheers
Guy

As far as I am aware, none of the people you mention were displaying symptoms of coronavirus at the time of their journeys / meetings unlike Dominic Cummings. If his vehicle had broken down on the journey or been involved in an accident, there could have been quite serious consequences for anyone coming to his assistance.

Dominic Cummings has considerable power, the other three are opposition MPs who have no say in government policy.

[Rishile]

Who according to not only the written down lockdown laws and guidelines has not broken any laws or rules, even the Attorney General, Suella Braverman  has stated Dominic Cummings has broken no laws.

Cheers
Guy

If he hasn't broken any laws then why have we been on lockdown?  Surely it was to prevent the spread of the virus.  He has admitted he travelled 260 miles with his wife who had the virus.  What was it about the instructions 'If you have the virus, stay at home' didn't he understand?  Also, he has admitted driving a 60 mile round trip 'to test his eyesight'.  That is not acceptable even in normal conditions.  If you consider your eyesight is not good enough to drive, get your eyes tested or do not drive.  These are the rules we ALL abide by. 

Rishile

[dowdstree]

Gadget the Minister who has resigned is Douglas Ross, Conservative MP for Moray. A junior minister at the Scottish Office.

I wonder if there will be any more resignations to come?

Dorrie

[Gadget]

Picked it up a few seconds after I posted, Dorrie. I think this story will run a bit longer yet!

I see that the ONS figures have come out showing a slight rise in excess deaths to May 15th (even after allowance for  no registrations on VE day holiday).  This is especially clear in care home deaths.

PS - a few more Tory MPs tweeting disapproval.

[dowdstree]

NRS figures due out tomorrow so we will see how Scotland is doing.

I too think that it is not over yet.

Dorrie

[groom]

What I can't understand is that, apparently there have been many inconsistencies between his story and an article that his wife wrote about their time in isolation. Also, his wife can drive and must have recovered from whatever she had as she accompanied the child to hospital. So, when they wanted to return to London, why did he have to do a test drive 30 miles each way to see if his eyesight was okay?  This trip just happened to be on his wife's birthday! Why couldn't they have returned to London sharing the driving?

[IgorStrav]

https://twitter.com/HaggardHawks/status/1264979700465700864?s=20

For the historians amongst us    a startlingly appropriate reference regarding the beauty spot in question.

"Barnard Casle -  historic term as in "Come, come, that's Barney Castle" , an expression often used when a person is heard making a bad excuse in an even worse cause......"

[JenB]

There are quite a few 'blue plaques' in Barnard Castle.
Yesterday a new one appeared  https://www.itv.com/news/2020-05-25/dominic-cummings-was-lurking-here-barnard-castle-sign-pokes-fun-at-alleged-visit/

For the historians amongst us    a startlingly appropriate reference regarding the beauty spot in question.

"Barnard Casle -  historic term as in "Come, come, that's Barney Castle" , an expression often used when a person is heard making a bad excuse in an even worse cause......"

It's in the dialect dictionary too