andrewartha/waters

[diabak]

I have an irish brickwall, and would love some help please?

Annie NIEL or WATERS, born in Wicklow, Ireland, married a cornishman John Andrewartha, i n Ireland, about 1836-1838, and all 7 children from 1838 to 1852 were born in Co wicklow, or that was their birthplace on the UK census when they returned to Cornwall, Some of the children emigrated to Australia, some stayed in the UK., would love  some directions on where to look next especially for a marriage or baptisms of the children.
Thanks

[LH]

Hi

Any more information, such as John’s occupation, religion and a definite surname for Annie.

With a Cornish connection, I wonder was John a Miner - maybe working in The Avoca Mines in Wicklow?

Kind regards

[dathai]

See St Kevin's school 1831 Brockagh
https://www.academia.edu/35692475/National_Schools_of_Derrylossary_1830s_to_c._1900

signatories to 1832 application ? by Church of Ireland parishioners include a John Andrewartha

[diabak]

John definitely was a miner, I am assuming he was  Weslyan, as most of the family were, some became missionaries in other countries, including Australia and America, with Anne, all we have is Neil/Waters, so we are assuming one was her maiden name, and the other was the name she married under.
His brother Francis and family emigrated to south australia in 1847.
In all the following census for the family that  can find their birthplace is stated as Co Wicklow, and they were all back in cornwall by 1858-1860.
I can give you the names and years of birth of the children if you need them.

[dathai]

John Andrews ? leasing from the Mining Co of Ireland 1831
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587428/004587428_00541.pdf

[diabak]

That was leasing a house? Can't find a date, so not sure of the year.

[gaffy]

John Andrews ? leasing from the Mining Co of Ireland 1831
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587428/004587428_00541.pdf

The same name crops up at Brockagh, Derrylossary in Griffith's Valuation, which has a local print date of 1854.

I did notice a couple of cases of precedent online for Andrewartha to be a.k.a. Andrews.

[diabak]

Their last son James was born circ 1852 in Wicklow, and John (the father ) died about 1860, as Anne was a widow and back in Cornwall in the 1861 census

1861   Cornwall (CON)   Redruth   Gwinear   -   1585   7   57   30   134      Lanyon Vean
Surname   Forenames   Relationship   Marital Status   Sex   Age   Occupation   Birth County   Birth Place   Disability   Notes
ANDREWARTHA   Ann   Head   W   F   49   Cook   IRL   -      
ANDREWARTHA   John   Son   U   M   18   Copper Miner   IRL   -      
ANDREWARTHA   Ellen   Dau   U   F   15   Servant   IRL   -      
ANDREWARTHA   Francis   Son   -   M   13   Work To Mine   IRL   -      
ANDREWARTHA   Ann   Dau   -   F   11   -   IRL   -      
ANDREWARTHA   James   Son   -   M   9   -   IRL   -

[Ian999]

Just for passing information and because it is all public domain, there was a Roy Andrewartha born 1938 in South Wales.
He worked in the coal mines there before moving to the Liverpool area. He became a professional snooker player -- very good but not brilliant. Retired in 1985.