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Fenemore family of Launton
« on: Sunday 24 May 20 11:43 BST (UK) »
William Allen Jones Fenemore was born in Launton 4/7/1844.  He married in Ormskirk Parish church Lancashire and on the record, his father, John, was described as "farmer".  Would it be possible to find out more about the Fenemores of Launton?
William is described as "postboy".

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Re: Fenemore family of Launton
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 May 20 12:06 BST (UK) »
Do you have William's birth certificate please - and hence his mother's maiden name?

Have you found, John the father on the 1841 census?

Sorry about the questions - but before people embark on a 'hunt' it would be useful to be aware of what information you already have - so that we don't simply duplicate what you know already.
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Re: Fenemore family of Launton
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 May 20 12:11 BST (UK) »
Launton parish records are on Ancestry.

William Allen FENEMORE was born 7 March 1841 and baptised 9 April 1841 at Launton.   He's shown as the son of Richard (not John) and Elizabeth.   The surname shows FENEMORE late JONES and appears to be the way that this register has been filled in.   I've checked the GRO and it confirms that the mothers maiden name was JONES.   Richard is shown as a Farmer.

Edit:
Richard and Elizabeth married at Launton 15 Jul 1830 - witnesses Joseph FENEMORE and Ann JONES.

To confuse things a bit more - another (assumed by me) Richard FENEMORE married at Launton in 1835 to Sarah BURNETT.


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Re: Fenemore family of Launton
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 May 20 12:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you for both replies.
The information we have about William AJ Fenemore is from a Family Tree, which starts with him and his wife, Jane Ann Lewis.  On it was the birth date.
The marriage between William and Jane Ann took place on 8th May 1870 in St. Peter and St. Paul's Parish Church Ormskirk.  His father was described as "John" a farmer and her father was Joseph Lewis a butcher.
I got William's job wrong.  He was described as a "post messenger".

We have not looked at the census for Launton.  The couple moved to Toxteth Park (then Lancashire, rather than Liverpool) but we know nothing about the antecedents in Launton.


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Re: Fenemore family of Launton
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 May 20 13:10 BST (UK) »
I think you need to look at this with great care.   There appear to be two William Allen FENEMOREs.   One born in 1841 and another William Allen Jones FENEMORE born in 1844.   The one born in 1841, appears to have died in 1867 at Waddesdon, Buckinghamshire.
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Re: Fenemore family of Launton
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 May 20 14:01 BST (UK) »
Great find Harry.

jomasafene -- may I suggest be wary of taking Family Trees at face value unless the sources for the infomation on the trees has been given.

In 1841 there is a Richard Fenemore in Launton, with age rounded down to 40 - with a wife Elizabeth (age rounded down to 35 - and an 11 year old Francis - strangely shown as Farmer.

In addition - there seems to be Sarah aged 7, Ann 5, Elizabeth 3, Wm A ? - aged 3 months.

This family must be the wrong one according to HarryW's findings -- as the Wm A ? Fenemore born 1841 appears to have died in 1867.

SO -- there is another Richard Fenemore in 1841 - aged 33 (not rounded down!) in Launton - a Farmer with wife Sarah.
Children Alfred 4, John 6 mths.

This surname has been mis-transcribed in both families - and will be a problem going backwards!!

If your William was born in 1844 - then I think you really need to obtain the birth certificate as proper evidence.
Just register with general register office - find the birth - by going to Search GRO indexes and you can order on line.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

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Re: Fenemore family of Launton
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 May 20 14:18 BST (UK) »
For some reason, it has been indexed on GRO's site as:

Fenimore, William Allen James (?), Sept.1844   Vol. 16 page 31 - mother maiden Sirett.

John Fenemore married Ann Jones Sirett  Mar.qtr. 1841 (Oxford marriages states took place at Launton).

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Re: Fenemore family of Launton
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 May 20 14:23 BST (UK) »
Looks like he is on 1851 census at Launton as Allen Will. Feremon 6, and with grandfather Richard Fenemon 83.

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Re: Fenemore family of Launton
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 May 20 14:27 BST (UK) »
In 1861 in Launton as Allen J. Fenimore 16 with siblings and parents John and Ann J.  John is a farmer of 65 acres.

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