New here, so please forgive me if this question has been asked before.

[Neets]

Does the LDS facility hold records of all deaths and burials in the UK. I am fortunate to live close to one in Huddersfield.

I have two dilemmas in my tree at the moment.  One is I have a Thomas Ibbetson died 1849 in Leeds West and no date of birth.   I also have a Thomas Whelan b. Dec 1870 died June 1885 also in Leeds West.  Silly question I know but how do I find out the cause of death? Plus where they are buried.

I have knowledge that Thomas Whelan's brother Benjamin Whelan b June 1873 (My GGF) married Grace Leech Sept 1901. They had three children, Robert Whelan  b March 1903, Christopher Whelan b Sept 1904 and my adoptive mother Marian Whelan b 1908.

I know Benjamin and Grace are buried in Whitkirk Parish Church in Leeds  aka St Mary's/ but cannot find the graves.  Would Parish records help or would LDS have the answers.

Sorry to be a little thick here, but I have come to a dead end! Oops
This site is a mine of information and I have read avidly for the last four hours. If anyone can advise me I would be most grateful and if there are others who have similar surnames I have tons of information that I would be willing to share with anyone.

Best wishes and forgive my waffle!
Neets

[leeric]

Hi,

There is a Thomas Ibbetson christened 4th June 1786 at St.Peter's in Leeds on the IGI batch no. J009624. There is also numerous "Ibbotson's". It's worth having a look because there is three ancestral files as well.

See you.

[Bee]

Hi Neets

As leeric suggests the IGI is very useful and can be found at www.familysearch.org/

As for the cause of death, you will have to buy the death certificate for that, the death cert will should also tell you the address where the person died.

happy hunting

Bee

[Neets]

  Wow, thank you so much, I did not expect a response for a few days bless you, bee and leeric.  I thought I might have to buy the death certificate, but wondered if I could check it out first before with the LDS. Think I might have to set a couple of days aside for a check out.

Thanks for the clear link, this geneology is like doing jigsaws but much more interesting.  Thanks for all your help. If there are any more Ibbetsons and Whelans out there, I have some info from Yorkshire BMD just ask and I will share it with anyone.

Best wishes Neets

[Bee]

Hello again

If you trawl down to the bottom of the page you will see "your surname interests", click on it and add your surnames to the table, you might even find other people with your interests.

Bee

[Valda]

The LDS have summarised baptisms and marriages entries for some parish registers, mostly up to 1837 but with entries after that. They have not summarised all parish registers by any means and their coverage varies from parish to parish and from county to county. High in some counties very low in others. They have done it because of their religious beliefs, which do not include finding out any information about burials so they have not looked at parish registers for burials.
Because the IGI does not inlude all baptisms just because a baptism can be found on the IGI does not mean it is the right baptism (or marriage)
There are two sorts of entries on the IGI. Those taken from the actual parish registers (and any transcription may have mistakes in it, you should always if at all possible check the original) and those submitted by LDS church members which can be spot on, or widely inaccurated. The Ancestral files are just the same. In some of these entries you may find mention of death/burial information. These submissions by LDS members must always be checked and taken with a pinch of salt - they could be wrong.
The way to find out cause of death for the later deaths you have in your family tree (after civil registration began) is to purchase the death certificates. In 1885 a burial in Leeds may be in a cemtery or a church, but I doubt it would be any in the city centre. Leeds was a big city so it is going to have more than one cemetery. The record office can tell you who holds the different cemetery records and how to access them and also wwhich churches near to where the death took place where still burying people.
Though the LDS will not have burials on the IGI they will probably hold microfilms of parish registers (but not necessarily up to the period you are interested in). You can order these films to be used at your local LDS for a small cost. They usually take up to a couple of months to arrive. Alternatively you can check out Leeds Record Office.
http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/index.asp?pg=vhp.html
With interests in Leeds you might also be interested in this website
http://www.leedsindexers.co.uk/
A death certificate will also give you an age at death where you don't know it, to help you search for an earlier baptism as for Thomas Ibbetson.

Regards
Valda

[Neets]

Goodness me I have learned more in four hours on here after struggling to do things myself in the last eight months. Please bear with me whilst I learn and check out those links you have so kindly provided.  I really appreciate the help here and will recommend this site to others.


Thank you all for taking the time, maybe one day I can do the same for others!
Best wishes Neets

[leeric]

Hi Neets,

I came across a gentleman who has a surname interest in Ibbetson in Leeds during the period you are interested in. If you go to leedsindexers.co.uk. in the surname section under "I", you can contact him directly if you want to. Hope it helps.

See you, Lee.

[Neets]

Hi Lee, thanks for that information, I will see what I can do to help him out and who knows he might be able to help me also! Cheers Neets