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Hello All,
I have been searching for where both my 4th GGrandparents originated from.

William Cave and Mary Butt.

They married 21 May 1735 at Gillingham, Dorset and had eight children I think, (7 I have traced, the last, Sarah may not be from that family)

My 3rd GGrandfather, John Cave, born the last son, moved to Compton Dundon, married Sarah Hill in Pitney by Langport on 22 October 1783. He died in Jan 1817 and is buried at St John the Baptist, Pitney, Somerset.

How do I find where William and Mary came from?      ???

Thankyou for any help you can provide :)
Chris
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Re: William Cave, birth unknown M. Mary Butt 21 May 1735, Gillingham, Dorset
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 May 20 14:35 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I would also appreciate any help finding out William and Mary's birth/baptism dates and parentage.
I just don't know where to look as I am out bush in South Australia.
Thanx
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Bissett - Scotland
Butler - Yorkshire
Butt - Dorset
Butterworth - Yorkshire
Cave - Somerset
Darby - Somerset
Grierson - Scotland
Kruger/Krueger - Prussia, Germany
Lecher - Cottbus, Brandenburg, Germany
Levick - Nottinghamshire, UK
Molde - Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark/Germany
Oram - Wiltshire & Somerset, UK
Randell - Devon, UK
Savren - Dorset, UK
Weilbach - Denmark & South Africa
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Re: William Cave, birth unknown M. Mary Butt 21 May 1735, Gillingham, Dorset
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 June 20 13:32 BST (UK) »
Sorry guys,   I have just noticed that I posted this same query in May 19.
I am still trying to plod along with this.   ???
I have been through the OPC.
Where/what now though? Do I go to a Historical Society to try to find help researching?
I sort of know how to track things down in Australia but English records way back then are a mystery to me......damn colonial!
Berg - Uppsala, Sweden
Bissett - Scotland
Butler - Yorkshire
Butt - Dorset
Butterworth - Yorkshire
Cave - Somerset
Darby - Somerset
Grierson - Scotland
Kruger/Krueger - Prussia, Germany
Lecher - Cottbus, Brandenburg, Germany
Levick - Nottinghamshire, UK
Molde - Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark/Germany
Oram - Wiltshire & Somerset, UK
Randell - Devon, UK
Savren - Dorset, UK
Weilbach - Denmark & South Africa
Williams - Cornwall, UK

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Re: William Cave, birth unknown M. Mary Butt 21 May 1735, Gillingham, Dorset
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 June 20 13:55 BST (UK) »


St Andrew, Compton Dundon, Somerset

Burials;
WILLIAM Cave 20 May 1779
MARY Cave 16 May 1780
No ages given.

Marriage same Church;
Susanah CAVE/James CABLE 14 Dec 1778, a JOHN Cave a witness

I see Johns Burial has him as age 67 , birth c 1750, so quite old to marry 1783

Trish :)
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Re: William Cave, birth unknown M. Mary Butt 21 May 1735, Gillingham, Dorset
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 June 20 23:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish,     thankyou for your interest.
I did see the age difference, still, it's all I have.
This family moved to Somerset next generation and I have quite a bit on them.
I have a tree on A....try - "Williams Family Tree" if you can see them.
But previous to that it gets harder for me.

There are only baptisms then?

I did see the Thomas Cave one as a father on OPC but that name really doesn't "fit" in my lot. No children named that after is a bit odd.
Where to next???
Cheers,
Chris
Berg - Uppsala, Sweden
Bissett - Scotland
Butler - Yorkshire
Butt - Dorset
Butterworth - Yorkshire
Cave - Somerset
Darby - Somerset
Grierson - Scotland
Kruger/Krueger - Prussia, Germany
Lecher - Cottbus, Brandenburg, Germany
Levick - Nottinghamshire, UK
Molde - Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark/Germany
Oram - Wiltshire & Somerset, UK
Randell - Devon, UK
Savren - Dorset, UK
Weilbach - Denmark & South Africa
Williams - Cornwall, UK

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Re: William Cave, birth unknown M. Mary Butt 21 May 1735, Gillingham, Dorset
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 08:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris.

I'm not sure what to suggest but getting back as far as you have is quite a feat.

I gave up on some lines early 1700's as it was hard to find conclusive records.

I am not sure what you mean by this ?;
I did see the Thomas Cave one as a father on OPC

Whose Father do you mean ?

Trish :)
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Re: William Cave, birth unknown M. Mary Butt 21 May 1735, Gillingham, Dorset
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 08:30 BST (UK) »
Sorry Trish,
There was 1 Thomas Cafe listed as father to William Cave/Cafe but as I said, my feeling is that he is not mine.
Chris
Berg - Uppsala, Sweden
Bissett - Scotland
Butler - Yorkshire
Butt - Dorset
Butterworth - Yorkshire
Cave - Somerset
Darby - Somerset
Grierson - Scotland
Kruger/Krueger - Prussia, Germany
Lecher - Cottbus, Brandenburg, Germany
Levick - Nottinghamshire, UK
Molde - Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark/Germany
Oram - Wiltshire & Somerset, UK
Randell - Devon, UK
Savren - Dorset, UK
Weilbach - Denmark & South Africa
Williams - Cornwall, UK

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Re: William Cave, birth unknown M. Mary Butt 21 May 1735, Gillingham, Dorset
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 10:45 BST (UK) »
Oh dear!

Now I feel officially discouraged!
😟

Trish, if you can't get further back then what hope have I got?
You're much more experienced than me!

I think I got artificially inflated with results advertised and shown in programs.

Plus, Jamjar helped me immensely with Swedish Ancestors back to 1600's.

Some places have great records.  I am struggling to get Prussian/German records too.

Thankyou for your input.
I read new posts every night to see if any relate to me or I might learn new things.

Cheers to you in this time....

Chris
Berg - Uppsala, Sweden
Bissett - Scotland
Butler - Yorkshire
Butt - Dorset
Butterworth - Yorkshire
Cave - Somerset
Darby - Somerset
Grierson - Scotland
Kruger/Krueger - Prussia, Germany
Lecher - Cottbus, Brandenburg, Germany
Levick - Nottinghamshire, UK
Molde - Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark/Germany
Oram - Wiltshire & Somerset, UK
Randell - Devon, UK
Savren - Dorset, UK
Weilbach - Denmark & South Africa
Williams - Cornwall, UK

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Re: William Cave, birth unknown M. Mary Butt 21 May 1735, Gillingham, Dorset
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 11:52 BST (UK) »
Cheers to you also Chris.

Rootchat is a great distraction at this time.

New records are being added on free sites all the time so dont be totally discouraged.


Trish :)
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)