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Breaden Family - Dunlavin, Wicklow
« on: Wednesday 10 June 20 09:04 BST (UK) »
Hi, I was just wondering if someone could help me with some research on some relatives.
My ancestor, Thomas Ignatius Breaden, was born on Jan 5th 1863 in Wicklow, Ireland and baptised on 11 Jan that year. His brother Patrick Lorenzo Breaden was born Nov 11th 1864 and baptised on the 29th. Their parents were Thomas and either Anastasia or Mary Ann Breaden (nee Gorman) (the first name differs on some records). Thomas Sr was a Policeman/Constable - possibly part of the Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC). The brothers, Thomas and Patrick immigrated to Queensland, Australia in 1883. If anyone is able to find the marriage, birth/baptism or death records of Thomas (Sr) and Anastasia/Mary Ann it would be much appreciated. Also, if there are any RIC records you can find they would be really great too. They are listed as living at Crehelp, Dunlavin, Wicklow on Thomas' baptism certificate.
Thanks, Michael :)

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Re: Breaden Family - Dunlavin, Wicklow
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 June 20 10:09 BST (UK) »

These are probably the deaths.

Thomas Breadin on 5th February 1898, aged 65 at 2 Susan Terrace, Dublin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05841/4654477.pdf

Mary Anne Breaden on 8th May 1898, aged 47 at 2 Susan Terrace, Dublin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05832/4651380.pdf

The informant in both cases was their daughter, K. Breaden.

Note also that Patrick Lorenzo Breaden was born on the 28th November 1864.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03596/2326143.pdf

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Re: Breaden Family - Dunlavin, Wicklow
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 June 20 10:19 BST (UK) »
A start.
Patrick has a birth cert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03596/2326143.pdf
Thomas is given as a Sub Constable.
RIC did not serve in their home county or that of their wife.

Mary born 1866
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03509/2290501.pdf

Could there be two families
James 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03138/2150704.pdf
Mother as Mary but the surname doesn't look like Gorman and father not as Sub just Constable

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Re: Breaden Family - Dunlavin, Wicklow
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 June 20 10:30 BST (UK) »

These are probably the deaths.

Thomas Breadin on 5th February 1898, aged 65 at 2 Susan Terrace, Dublin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05841/4654477.pdf

Mary Anne Breaden on 8th May 1898, aged 47 at 2 Susan Terrace, Dublin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05832/4651380.pdf

The informant in both cases was their daughter, K. Breaden.

Note also that Patrick Lorenzo Breaden was born on the 28th November 1864.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03596/2326143.pdf

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Re: Breaden Family - Dunlavin, Wicklow
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 June 20 10:32 BST (UK) »
How do the ranks work in the RIC?
Do you start as a Sub Constable and than Constable?

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Re: Breaden Family - Dunlavin, Wicklow
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 June 20 11:21 BST (UK) »
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How do the ranks work in the RIC?
Do you start as a Sub Constable and than Constable?

Indeed you do, Sinann

Sub-Constable 2nd class -> Sub-Constable 1st class -> Sub-Constable
Then
Acting Constable -> Constable
Then
Acting Sergeant -> Sergeant

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Re: Breaden Family - Dunlavin, Wicklow
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 June 20 12:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks so Sub would be early in his career which makes sense for the births of the children.

This family looks worth investigating further.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Merchants_Quay/Ebenezer_Terrace/1298675/

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Re: Breaden Family - Dunlavin, Wicklow
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 June 20 12:25 BST (UK) »
This could get messy
Catherine Breaden to Thomas, Police Constable and Mary Ann Dowling 1876 Co Meath
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03070/2125611.pdf
Eugene 1884 to Thomas Police pensioner and Mary Ann Dowling Dublin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02670/1984097.pdf

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Re: Breaden Family - Dunlavin, Wicklow
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 June 20 12:31 BST (UK) »
Is it the same Thomas married twice?
Need to find a marriage for Thomas and Mary Ann Dowling.

Think I have it 1873 between birth of Mary 1866 and James 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11287/8140594.pdf
Thomas Braydon widowed Constable to Mary Doolin which fits better with the surname on James' birth.

Looks like Anastasia died 1872 image not online yet
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pks/