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Hutchings / Gray marriage
« on: Friday 12 June 20 22:12 BST (UK) »
Joan Gibson b 03/02/1909 marries Frank Gray b 07/06/1907, in 1931.
All registered in Beverley

Frank is killed in 1941
The 1939 register has Joan Gray, together with Franks widowed mother, living in Beverley.
There is a note changing the name Gray to Hutchings, this is dated 24/02/1967, so the marriage must have taken place before this date

I can find the death of a Joan Hutchings with the correct birth date registered 1980 in Hull

I cannot find the Gray / Hutchings marriage, even tried Gibson / Hutchings thinking she may have reverted to her maiden name.
Can anyone find

Thanks in anticipation


Steve
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Allison     Beverley, Hull
Bowser   East Yorkshire
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Re: Hutchings / Gray marriage
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 June 20 23:22 BST (UK) »
This is the only one I can find - Alberts birthdate was 1913 so only 4yrs between them

Joan Gray March qtr 1974  Northumberland South Volume 1b Page 727
Spouse    Albert E C Hutchings

Deaths

Albert Edward C Hutchings aged 86 Birth 10 Nov 1913
Registration Nov 1999  Beverley
Register Number:    23A
District and Subdistrict:    5421A
Entry Number:    268

The 1939 entry suggests a marriage date of 24.2.1967.  Looking at the entry below - that Barnes/Thompson marriage was in 1950

Are either of their 2 sons still alive?
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Re: Hutchings / Gray marriage
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 June 20 08:29 BST (UK) »
'Albert Edward Cyril Hutchings [Peacock]' is in one private tree on Ancestry.

Joan is in several trees, none show the marriage details.

Worth trying to contact the private tree owner?

Cannot see Albert's birth.

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Re: Hutchings / Gray marriage
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 June 20 08:36 BST (UK) »
Can see this birth:
Births December quarter 1913
Albert E C Peacock  mmn Smith   Tamworth  6b   855

Ada Smith married Albert S Peacock in Lichfield in 1912.

Ada Smith is given as Albert's mother on Staffs births records.

Staffs has birth as 11 September 1913 so incorrect person?
 


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Re: Hutchings / Gray marriage
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 June 20 09:02 BST (UK) »
If she does not marry Albert Hutchings this is a bit/lot irrelevant.

But I can see a birth for an Albert Samuel Peacock (and army records) in 1889 but no death, and a possible death for an Albert S Hutchings and 1939 for Albert Samuel Hutchings, but not with Jane.

Think Albert S Hutchings did not marry an Agnes until 1954 - and her surname given as Hutchings and Webb so had been living together for some time.

When/if does he change from Peacock to Hutchings and his son does also?

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Re: Hutchings / Gray marriage
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 June 20 12:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies, wonder if the marriage took place abroad
Joan's first husband was in the Royal Navy Reserve
Just a thought

CaroleW

The 1939 entry suggests a marriage date of 24.2.1967.  Looking at the entry below - that Barnes/Thompson marriage was in 1950


My understanding is that the date given against updates to the 1939 register are the date the entry was made, not the date of the event.

Thanks for the input

Steve
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Boyes     Beverley, Hull
Allison     Beverley, Hull
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Re: Hutchings / Gray marriage
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 June 20 15:03 BST (UK) »
Death certificate for name of informant (in the hope that it is a relative)?

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Re: Hutchings / Gray marriage
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 June 20 15:26 BST (UK) »
There are trees on Ancestry with photos of the marriage of Frank and Joan, but then do not have the correct death as Hutchings for her.  The pictures must have come from somewhere.  She is often referred to as Joan Margaret.

The son, Michael, had an obituary in the Daily Telegraph (but I do not have a subscription).  Died in 2011.

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Re: Hutchings / Gray marriage
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 June 20 18:02 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage for Albert E C Hutchings to Violet M Tatton March qtr 1944 Staffordshire.  Violet Mabel Tatton was b 1904 Wolverhampton and died 1981 Wolverhampton.  Probate entry shows she left over £21,500

A tree on Ancestry has her marriage but no details of spouse - marked as private
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