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Re: CSM William A M Pirie , death Glasgow Sept. 1945 , grave location ?
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 10:39 BST (UK) »
I am going to show more ignorance here but is a `lair` simply a grave ?
Yes.

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Would `Compartment 1 ` be similar to `Section 1` as shown in a cemetery plan for instance?
Yes. Probably the same, not just 'similar'.
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Re: CSM William A M Pirie , death Glasgow Sept. 1945 , grave location ?
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 11:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you


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Re: CSM William A M Pirie , death Glasgow Sept. 1945 , grave location ?
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 22:12 BST (UK) »
Some really great researchers out there . (Jonathan @ F a G )

Lair 954 Section (Compartment 1 )
William Pirie  interred 13 Oct 1943 age 74

William Pirie interred 14 Sept 1945 age 40

Joseph Gibson interred 3 Nov 1951 age 60


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Re: CSM William A M Pirie , death Glasgow Sept. 1945 , grave location ?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 25 June 20 19:50 BST (UK) »
Just an update the grave has been visited and is unmarked . The surrounding stones are in a very poor state of repair. If the grave was ever marked is not known but it`s  certainly not now.

*UPDATE*

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Re: CSM William A M Pirie , death Glasgow Sept. 1945 , grave location ?
« Reply #31 on: Monday 09 August 21 23:22 BST (UK) »
CWGC will be moving ther commemoration from Brookwood Memorial. Hopefully they will be erecting a headstone over the grave of  CSM Pirie very soon now.

Thanks to all ,I will let you know once the grave is marked

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Re: CSM William A M Pirie , death Glasgow Sept. 1945 , grave location ?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 23 August 21 11:37 BST (UK) »
Commemoration now moved. Thanks to all who contributed this soldier is now recognised as having his own grave rather than on `a memorial to those lost` . 4443709 Pirie will soon have his own headstone. Thanks to the help of researchers here :)

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2147617/WILLIAM%20PIRIE/


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Re: CSM William A M Pirie , death Glasgow Sept. 1945 , grave location ?
« Reply #33 on: Friday 04 August 23 14:34 BST (UK) »
Over two years since the CWGC decided to erect a headstone over CSM Piries grave  and I`m just revisiting this topic to show I haven`t forgotten my promise to update anyone interested with the headstones progress.

Well the CWGC did promise to let me know when the headstone was being erected but I have had nothing back since . They also promised to send a photograph of the new commemoration but to-date ,again, I have heard/received nothing .

 I have this little feeling that they may have just forgotten to keep me up to-date, which is fine they are busy people but if anyone passes Lambhill and notices that CSM Pirie has /hasn`t his new headstone could they post it up here or send me a little note?

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Re: CSM William A M Pirie , death Glasgow Sept. 1945 , grave location ?
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 12 August 23 02:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Jim,

Sorry to hear there hasn't been any progress with the headstone. May need to give them a follow up if you haven't already! I hope someone will be able to have a look for you to check whether it's there or not. All the best!

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Andrea
McLachlan, Glasgow, Martin, Menzies

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Re: CSM William A M Pirie , death Glasgow Sept. 1945 , grave location ?
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 12 August 23 09:44 BST (UK) »
Can't help re a grave picture, but to keep this thread active until someone possibly sees it who can, thought we might add some possibilities for family members.

CWGC look to have added William to their 'appeal for relatives' list in September 2021. Haven't seen any search here on Rootschat for them, as is sometimes done. Don't know if they found anyone.

Anyhow, St George's is mentioned earlier in thread, as was a sister, Catherine. So, these two births seem promising:

PIRIE
WILLIAM ALEXAND

LIVINGSTONE [mmn]
M
1905
644 / 9 / 104
KELVIN

and

PIRIE
CATHERINE LIVIN[STONE]

LIVINGSTONE [mmn]
F
1899
644 / 9 / 987
KELVIN

Potential for parents being:

PIRIE
WILLIAM WHITTET

LIVINGSTONE
MARY ANN

1895
644 / 8 / 276
MILTON

Middle name for above Catherine fits well with initial in the the Catherine L Pirie marriage to Joseph Gibson.

Her death, cross indexed under Pirie:

GIBSON
CATHERINE L

72
F
1971
644 / 9 / 1013
GLASGOW

If potential parents correct, then death of William's mum would seem to be:

PIRIE
MARY ANN

43
LIVINGSTONE [mn]
F
1914
644 / 13 / 603
KELVIN

and his father's death, again if correct parents:

PIRIE
WILLIAM WHITTET

74
M
1943
644 / 4 / 960
PROVAN

an infant son of same name as above was also born/died in 1901 in Kelvin district.

No other siblings obvious. edit to add this possible birth:

PIRIE
FRANCIS GARDEN
M
1896
644 / 9 / 1547
KELVIN

There seem to be about five or so possible births to the Gibson/Pirie marriage, but as after 1919, and some could still be alive, I won't list them here. Some were infant deaths.

A Margaret Shanks Gibson nee Smith died  aged 45 in Helensburgh area in 1984, and may have been wife of one of the Gibson/Pirie children. Not seeing an obvious death for her husband, who may therefore still be living.





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