Isabella and Jane Patterson 1847 Ford finding parents

[geordiesue]

Hi I have came across these twin girls Isabella and Jane Patterson while researching John Patterson. John Patterson was born 1829 in Ford Northumberland. On the 1841 census I have him aged 10 living with his parents George and Mary Patterson and family living in Duddoe.

 In 1851 hes again with his parents George and Mary and grand daughters to George and Mary Isabella and Jane aged 4 years. It also says John is their father

In 1861 John is staying with his sister Sarah Gibbinson nee Patterson and husband James with an Ann Patterson aged 9 and a Jane Patterson aged 4

On doing a search with GRO It came up with the following

    NAME                MOTHER`S MAIDEN NAME
PATTERSON, JANE        -     
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in GLENDALE UNION  Volume 25  Page 250
 
         NAME                MOTHER`S MAIDEN NAME
PATTERSON, ISABELLA        -     
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in GLENDALE UNION  Volume 25  Page 250

No Mothers maiden name is on their births and after the 1851 census I have`nt been able to find them. I wondered if they might have been Sarahs before she married.

John died in Netherton Colliery 17 January 1863. I cant see on the census for 1861 whether he was married. Any help would be much appreciated 

[Milliepede]

The only way to be certain if Sarah was their mother is to obtain a birth certificate for one of them.

John would only have been 16/17 so I think more likely to be Sarah or perhaps another sister if they had one? 

[Milliepede]

There is a 13 years old Isabella who is a servant in 1861 with a Patterson family - birthplace Stanfield Northumberland is that likely to be her?

Jane is also a 13 year old servant in 1861 with a Patterson family - birthplace Ford Northumberland.

[Milliepede]

In 1851 hes again with his parents George and Mary and grand daughters to George and Mary Isabella and Jane aged 4 years. It also says John is their father

The image doesn't specify he is their father, just that he is son of George and the girls are grand daughters of George.

[geordiesue]

There is a 13 years old Isabella who is a servant in 1861 with a Patterson family - birthplace Stanfield Northumberland is that likely to be her?

Jane is also a 13 year old servant in 1861 with a Patterson family - birthplace Ford Northumberland.

OOh thank you for that. It is the same Isabella on the 1861 Census. The George Patterson would be her full cousin. It is also the right Jane and shes living with Robert Patterson who is her Uncle.

It seems like on the 1851 census image itself it has that Isabella and Jane are granddaughters to George and Mary and John is their son but its transcribed like this on Ancestry
Name:    Jane Patterson
Age:    4
Estimated birth year:    abt 1847
Relation:    Granddaughter

I think I might need to  order one of their birth certificates. I know there was also a Mary Patterson sister to Sarah who could be a possible mother. I`ve not found the marriage yet for her but it seems she married a Robert Davison from Tweedmouth. On the 1851 census they were living in Seaton Delavel and had a son aged 1 but on the 1861 census they are living just a few doors from where her brother Robert is living and also Jane one of the twins. Thats very interesting. Thankyou Milliepede
Father's name:    John Patterson
Gender:    Female
Where born:    Ford, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish:    Ford

[jonwarrn]

There is a record of a Jane at Ford on FamilySearch. But not an Isabella?
Indexed as Jane Rogerson or Patterson
Apparently it's a baptism, 18 June 1848
father Robert Rogerson, mother Sarah Patterson.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5RR-LB4

I mention it just in case!

[geordiesue]

There is a record of a Jane at Ford on FamilySearch. But not an Isabella?
Indexed as Jane Rogerson or Patterson
Apparently it's a baptism, 18 June 1848
father Robert Rogerson, mother Sarah Patterson.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5RR-LB4

I mention it just in case!

That looks quite promising. Its a pity there isn`t another for Isabella. There was a Robert Rogerson born abt 1822 born in Ford. I have ordered Isabellas birth certificate to see if Sarah is the mother. Thank you Jonw65

[Milliepede]

Do come back and let us know when you get the certificate 

[geordiesue]

Do come back and let us know when you get the certificate 

Hi Milliepede I received the birth certificate today for Isabella born 20th Dec 1847 in Stainsfield Northumberland mother was Mary Patterson. The registrar that signed was Ralph Patterson who was Mary Patterson`s brother. There was no fathers name.

The 1861 census for both Jane and Isabella were correct ones.

Their mother Mary, Ive not found her marriage but shes with Robert Davidson at least from 1849 and has 5 children with him Andrew born 1849, Elizabeth 1855, Mary Ann 1859, Margaret 1860, John Thomas 1863. Sometime after 1881 they emmigrate to USA and their mother died in Pennsylvania in 1909

Isabella married James Percy 1870 in Cambois and they had 8 children what I`ve found and settled in Durham

Jane married Stephen Stanley 1868 in Morpeth and they had 3 children. I havent found them on the census after 1881 but I think they too might have emmigrated possibly the same time as her mother Mary. There is hints coming up on ancestry but I dont have worldwide subscription to view