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« on: Thursday 18 June 20 17:46 BST (UK) »
Looking for information on Andrew Briggs who would have been in the Portumna, Galway area in the 1870's.  He is listed as the father of Andrew Nolan (born 1873) along with the mother Mary Nolan at the baptism but not on the birth register.
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Re: Briggs
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 June 20 18:04 BST (UK) »
Do you have a link to the baptism please. I can only see a transcript/index.
How is the baptism worded?
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Re: Briggs
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 June 20 18:54 BST (UK) »
I can’t see any records in Galway. There are not many for the whole of Ireland in fact.
He might have been a soldier from  the local barracks or an estate worker etc.
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Re: Briggs
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 17:48 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your reply.  I scoured the Galway records myself before posting a request for help, hoping someone might be familiar with the name.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 18:03 BST (UK) »
Found it now.
Baptism 18th December 1873
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632945#page/62/mode/1up

Birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03157/2158053.pdf

Only 1 sponsor from mother's side of the family. That suggests to me that Andrew wasn't R.C. or that he didn't have a relative or friend local to invite to be sponsor, or that he didn't acknowledge the child or that he wasn't around. Or any combination of the above.
Father's occupation column on birth registration has "Labourer". So not a soldier at the time.
 
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Re: Briggs
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 18:14 BST (UK) »
Looking for information on Andrew Briggs who would have been in the Portumna, Galway area in the 1870's.  He is listed as the father of Andrew Nolan (born 1873) along with the mother Mary Nolan at the baptism but not on the birth register.

You seem to be assuming that a baby was conceived in the same place as it was born. Mary Nolan may have gone away to work, become pregnant and returned (or gone to Portumna) to have her baby. Or she may have met her swain at a fair or on a trip to the seaside or while visiting relatives.   
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Re: Briggs
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 18:29 BST (UK) »
Now I was assuming that ‘Labourer’ meant Mary’s occupation but of course not.
As I said before, he could have been an estate worker, assuming everything happened in the same area.
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Re: Briggs
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 June 20 14:09 BST (UK) »

You seem to be assuming that a baby was conceived in the same place as it was born. Mary Nolan may have gone away to work, become pregnant and returned (or gone to Portumna) to have her baby. Or she may have met her swain at a fair or on a trip to the seaside or while visiting relatives.

Going away to work and returning pregnant is a strong possibility.  The Nolan family is my actual focus.  I believe the witness Anne Nolan was my grt grandmother. The father Ned Nolan died in 1878. Mrs Dolphin of London evicted the family in 1879, my Ann then emigrated to the US. Ed (Ned) Jr.  died in Portumna 1882, the mother Eliz died in the workhouse in 1894. I am following up on a hunch that the Andrew Nolan living with my grt grandmother in 1895 was the son of Andrew Briggs. I lost track of Mary Nolan and her sister Elizabeth. I was hoping if I could ascertain where Mary connected with Andrew Briggs, I might pick up her trail.
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