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William Robertson married Margaret McKay?
« on: Saturday 04 July 20 06:42 BST (UK) »
Hi guys, have a little bit of a stumbling block. I have a death certificate of John Robertson ( married Isabella Noble 1851 Daviot & Dunlichity) John born 1831 to William Robertson & Margaret McKay. Death certificate only states Inverness shire for birth place.
Other children : Joseph 1838, Margaret 1844, and William 1846 - all born Leith? John and Isabella came out to Australia approx 1851-1852. Cannot find marriage of his parents and also to know whether the rest of the family stayed in Scotland?

Cheers from down under

Kaz

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Re: William Robertson married Margaret McKay?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 July 20 07:17 BST (UK) »
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Re: William Robertson married Margaret McKay?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 July 20 07:26 BST (UK) »
 Thanks Ev, was hoping to ascertain his parents - William Robertson and Margaret McKay? And hopefully their details and other children. I have the details you provided and thank you for your response. Much appreciated.  Kaz

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Re: William Robertson married Margaret McKay?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 July 20 07:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ev, I had been given info that William Robertson was born around 1810 and Margaret McKay about 1815.  Children born : John Robertson ( death cert) born 1831 married Isabella Noble 1851. And that William Robertson in 1851 census was at 18 St Andrews Street Dundee. South Leith. Maybe I am being led up the garden path. But John's death cert shows parents names as above.
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Re: William Robertson married Margaret McKay?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 July 20 08:20 BST (UK) »
You have a death certificate and a baptism with the same parents in the right county - why do you think you need to 'ascertain his parents' beyond that?

Where did you get the birth years for William and Margaret? William Robertson's age in the 1841 census is given as 45. Adults' ages in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest 5 years, so if 45 is accurate he was born between 1791 and 1796, not in 1810. Margaret McKay seems to be missing from the household in 1841, so she may have died. But if William jr was born in 1826/1827, his mother cannot have been born in 1815.

If you were told that anyone was at 'Dundee, South Leith' then you were indeed being led up the garden path because Dundee and Leith are about 50 miles apart. Also, it's the wrong William Robertson. The one in the 1841 census was born in Inverness-shire, and the one at 18 St Andrews Street, Leith was born in Leith, which is in Midlothian.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: William Robertson married Margaret McKay?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 July 20 08:24 BST (UK) »
From the death cert. his father William was a farmer.

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18 St Andrews Street Dundee. South Leith.
Dundee(Angus) and South Leith(Midlothian) are in different counties ?(Forfarian has answered this).

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Margaret McKay seems to be missing from the household in 1841,
There is a wife Margaret at Balblair in 1851.


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The Margaret on the 1851 Census looks a bit young(42 ?)
Wondering if William had remarried ?
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Re: William Robertson married Margaret McKay?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 July 20 08:45 BST (UK) »
There is a wife Margaret at Balblair in 1851.
Balblair, parish of Moy and Dalarossie (as opposed to any other Balblair - there are several, of which the best known is in Ross and Cromarty)

William Robertson, 55; Margaret, 42; Mary, 15; Duncan, 8; George, 6; Catherine, 4; James, 2; Donald, under 1 year. Duncan is probably the one baptised in Moy and Dalarossie on 13 April 1843, father William, no mother named, but the baptisms of the rest are missing. (They probably went with the Free Kirk at the Disruption in May 1843). They are still there in 1861 and 1871.

However Margaret Robertson, other surname Fraser, died in Moy and Dalarossie in 1901, aged 93, and William Robertson, 81, died in Moy and Dalarossie in 1875. So it does look as if this is not your Margaret McKay. The banns of William Robertson and Margaret Fraser were called in Inverness and in Boleskine and Abertarff on 29 November 1830. However just in case this is a different couple with the same names, William Robertson's death certificate should tell you the names of all his wives.
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Re: William Robertson married Margaret McKay?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 July 20 09:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the information. I don't have William's death certificate - I sent through his son John's death certificate in first post - naming his parents and place of birth as Inverness shire. Being William Robertson and Margaret McKay.  He was born 1831, married in 1851 to Isabella Nobel (Noble) Daviot & Dinlichity and settled in Victoria Australia. First child born 1852 Joseph in Australia. He died 1895 and was aged 64 in Victoria Australia.

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Kaz