Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858

[Lisa61]

Dear Leisa,

My apologies, but I have only just seen your post from 10 April 2023.

It was definitely not my intention to upset you, nor is it my intention to argue with you. I understand how precious family memories and stories are. You were obviously extremely close to your much-loved father and have an understandable desire to keep both his memory, and that of your ancestors, alive.

I would very much like to see the newspaper article you mention from the time of your great-grandparents' wedding anniversary. I would imagine it refers to their Golden Anniversary in 1931? (If you have already posted it here on Rootschat, I'm sorry, but I haven't been able to find it.)

The article would add to my knowledge about the "Fanny Kirchner" and the immigrants who arrived aboard her. It may also help to correct any misassumptions I have made in my research.

With regards my article in "Ances-tree" (March 2021), the birth date of 16 Feb 1858 for your great-grandfather Carl is as per the 'Picture Ipswich' website and the (Ipswich) Early Settlers Database website. (You didn't give a date of birth in your posts, as far as I could see, prior to my article being published, and your great-grandfather's headstone does not provide a specific one.)

The daughter, Elisabeth Marie, mentioned in the article, married Henry DAMM and passed away 16 Oct 1879, aged just 23, that is, she was born c.1856

I have never stated that the SCHMEIDERs were not aboard the "Fanny Kirchner" - I have said that, given the information I had to hand, it did not seem likely. With over 200 passengers aboard the "Fanny Kirchner" and approx. half of these unidentified, I am always happy to stand corrected with any of my research.

with kind regards
Lisa

[Leisa]

Dear Lisa,

I am praying that with the attached newspaper article and my great grandfather's headstone, that the story that has been passed down from generation to generation which continues today with his son's (My grandfather, Carl Franics Schmeider's descendants of 57 grandchildren and his children -Who I am in contact with through a Facebook Page, dedicated to their memory) that he was indeed a passenger on the Fanny Kirchner. 

Previously, I mentioned an outbreak of small pox on the boat.  After speaking with my first, second and third cousins, the story is that TB was prevalent. 

My great grandfather's birth was also a point of interest as he was born while the Fanny Kirchner was in port at Port Jackson.  My relatives have told me that he was smuggled under his mother's skirt into Australia.  Sadly, reports are that if someone was unwell or dying on the boat, they were thrown overboard.  This also aligns with my previous messages that my great grandmother protected him when he was unwell so he was not thrown overboard. 

Through my research, his hidden birth, records of births on ships at port that were recorded in the country originated, that my story, not just my story, but the story of my ancestors should be acknowledged and recognised.

With the most kindest regards,

Leisa

[Leisa]

Dear Lisa,

I am attaching a clearer photo of the newspaper article printed in a 1925 Bundaberg Daily News and Mail issue for you.  I am also attaching a picture of my great, grandfather's headstone at the Bundaberg Catholic Cemetery in the next post as Rootschats wouldn't accept it as it was too large.  Please note that although a date of birth has not been engraved, his  family recognised his birth in Port Jackson when the Fanny Kirchner ship arrived (however, not having a birth certificate as I have previously mentioned due to him being born on the ship, German papers destroyed in the war, being hidden under his mother's skirt, etc) with his inscription being 'Died July 30 1942 aged 83 years and 5 months.  This date recognises that he was born when the ship was in port. 

If anyone else is reading this post, I would appreciate your support.  (Or let me know that they have seen it and my photos have attached as I am not familiar with how 'Roots chat' works.  I would really like to know how to see if my post has been seen or if a reply has been received.  Thank you)

With many thanks and love for my family,

Leisa x

[Leisa]

When I was trying to attach my files, it was deemed too large.

Can someone please help me with this.  I have two lovely photos to show Lisa.

With thanks,
Leisa

[cupoflife]

Hope this helps https://www.iloveimg.com/

[sarah]

Hi Lisa,

You will need to re-size them as there is a limit to how large the image files can be.

For help with this please read this topic.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=459330.0

Regards

Sarah

[Leisa]

Thank you Sarah and cupoflife.

I appreciate your replies.

Kind regards,
Leisa

[Leisa]

For Lisa. x
 
New information supporting my great grandfather being born on the Fanny Kirchner.

With thanks,
Leisa

[Dundee]

You know it is impossible for him to be born 16 Feb 1859 because his brother was born in May 1859 in Queensland, so both the newspaper article and the headstone are wrong, or it was a different ship.

If we assume that it should be 16 Feb 1858 then the day of birth is impossible because the Fanny Kirchner didn't arrive into Port Jackson until 27 Feb.

Debra