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Clifford Oliver (part 2)
« on: Tuesday 14 July 20 16:38 BST (UK) »
After 1927 when he was in court in Rotherham (horse stealing) I could find no trace of this guy.
I have his date of birth as 3 May 1898 in Rotherham.

On the 1939 Lists I have a Clifford Oliver b. 3 May 1899 (not 1898) living in Butts Green Kings Somborne, Romsey, Hampshire - a pipe fitter.
Also living with him is Violet E Oliver b.25 June 1907.

On Clifford 1939 entry it says 17 Feb 1916 W S F.  what does that mean?

I can find no marriage of Clifford and Violet.
I have a death of Violet E. Oliver in Pontypridd in S 1939 age 31 - she may well have been the Violet E Trew b. J 1907 Pontypridd.

But no sighting of Clifford after 1939.      Thanks.

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Re: Clifford Oliver (part 2)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 16:47 BST (UK) »
WSF is the registration code for the place where the adjustment to the register was made -
WSF   Wiltshire   Cricklade & Wootton Bassett   RD

It looks as though his date of birth was changed

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Re: Clifford Oliver (part 2)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 16:53 BST (UK) »
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I have a death of Violet E. Oliver in Pontypridd in S 1939 age 31

The 1939 register was taken on 29.9.1939 at which time he & Violet were in Hampshire so are you sure the September qtr 1939 death in Pontypridd is the same Violet

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she may well have been the Violet E Trew b. J 1907 Pontypridd.

Surname was Trow - not Trew
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Re: Clifford Oliver (part 2)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 17:22 BST (UK) »
thanks.
hadn't realised the 1939 was done in September 1939 - thought it was earlier like the censuses.

So the Violet who died in Pontypridd isn't the right one.

The Clifford Oliver b.3 May 1898 and Violet Oliver b. 25 June 1907 whether or not they're the right ones seem to have disappeared after 1939 - and no record of their marriage in England/Wales.


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Re: Clifford Oliver (part 2)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 17:35 BST (UK) »
There is no indication in 1939 against Cliffords name as to whether he is single /married etc
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Re: Clifford Oliver (part 2)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 17:43 BST (UK) »
This may be the 1939 death

Births September qtr 1909 
Violet Evelyn Oliver   Pontypridd  11a   694
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Re: Clifford Oliver (part 2)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 11:36 BST (UK) »
There is no indication in 1939 against Cliffords name as to whether he is single /married etc

there is what looks like an 'M' by both Clifford Oliver and Violet Olivers names - I assumed this meant they were married ??

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Re: Clifford Oliver (part 2)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 12:13 BST (UK) »
There is no indication in 1939 against Cliffords name as to whether he is single /married etc

there is what looks like an 'M' by both Clifford Oliver and Violet Olivers names - I assumed this meant they were married ??

I think that you need to look at Cliffords entry again
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Re: Clifford Oliver (part 2)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 12:41 BST (UK) »
I wonder if he went to Canada?

There is a travel record on FindMyPast for a Cliford Oliver born 1898 sailing to Quebec, Canada on 29th April 1929, ship was Alaunia.  Occupation unclear a something maker?

Address is equally difficult to make out - it looks like 5 Nottingham Road, South Croydon.
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