William Verner Gilpin Armagh Loughgall

[Kloumann]

Isabella & Thomas's grave on findagrave

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/74382497/isabella-g-wilson

[LAW1221]

Hi

Thanks, I've was fortunate to have visited the grave in person.  I'm not convinced about the year of birth.  I have many conflicting dates on various documents.  I need their marriage certificate...I looked in the same place (Manchester, Ct) that I found my grandmother's birth cert but no luck...per census, they were married 1891 or 1892.

[Kloumann]

I certainly cannot find an Irish birth record for either of them in that range. Possible the names were spelt differently.
From the 1900 Conn Census, it certainly looks as though the marriage was around 1892 & that Isabella may have been with child at that time.

Could they have been married at sea?

[Kloumann]

Have you looked at this marriage in Canada?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMVV-L8V

[LAW1221]

Marriage at sea is something I hadn't considered...if that was the case, would the passenger list have her with her maiden or married name, I wonder?I'm

Thank you,

Law

[eileenwilson]

Name:   Isabella Gilpin
Gender:   Female
Marriage Date:   6 Oct 1891
Marriage Place:   Astoria, New York, USA
Spouse:   Thomas Wilson
Certificate Number:   17410

Only the index is online at Ancestry.

[LAW1221]

That could be them...there is family connection in NY...

Thank you!!
Laura

[Kloumann]

Mary Gilpin, daughter of Thomas Gilpin of Copney, born 1866, Armagh

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03532/2299810.pdf

Added.

From the 1900 census, it looks like they were married around 1896. They emigrated 1887 & 1889

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9JT-S3Z

Richard's passport application, 1925

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99D3-P9QF-9?i=675&cc=2185145&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQV5Y-CQ4G

Gives there marriage date as 25th Dec 1895

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9D3-P362?i=676&cc=2185145

Includes photo of them both

[Kiltaglassan]

Thomas Gilpin of Copney in 1901 Irish census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Killymann/Copney/1015586/

Daughters Isabella and Mary have the wrong ages........Isabella born 1864 & Mary 1866.

KG