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James SMITH (1805-1895) of Chatham and Deptford
« on: Wednesday 29 July 20 15:34 BST (UK) »
James Smith was a builder who resided in Deptford all his adult life from his marriage to Elizabeth Entecott in 1824 at Woolwich to his death in 1895 but James was born in Chatham according to the various census. He remarried in 1870.

He was presumably the son of James and Jane, baptised St Mary Chatham 29 September 1805.  It appears his parents had other children baptised at the same church in the period from 1803.  Can anyone shed light on this family when they were in Chatham or when they moved to Deptford?

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Re: James SMITH (1805-1895) of Chatham and Deptford
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 July 20 15:38 BST (UK) »
You say "presumably the son of James & Jane".   Have you confirmed his fathers name from the 1870 marriage cert?

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Re: James SMITH (1805-1895) of Chatham and Deptford
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 July 20 15:55 BST (UK) »
You say all census entries show his birthplace as Chatham but 1871 is Maidstone and 1881 Deptford

1851/61 are Chatham

He married Caroline Bennett 1870 & marriage cert confirms father as James - also a builder

Where is he in 1891?
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Re: James SMITH (1805-1895) of Chatham and Deptford
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 July 20 16:24 BST (UK) »
In 1891 he appears to be still in Deptford but I can only find him on the FindMyPast index, and the 1895 probate entry shows he died in Deptford. 27 Octavius Street, Deptford retired builder.  I can't find the 1891 entry on FamilySearch or Ancestry and can't view at FindMyPast. But places of birth can vary on different census. His first wife was born in Maidstone.

My comment on the possible parentage was because I am uncertain on his mother's name.


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Re: James SMITH (1805-1895) of Chatham and Deptford
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 July 20 17:07 BST (UK) »
He is not at 27 Octavius Street in 1891. 

I can't see a James Smith bn c1805 in Deptford in 1891  ???  What information does the FindMyPast free search give you
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Re: James SMITH (1805-1895) of Chatham and Deptford
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 July 20 18:00 BST (UK) »
Do you have his death cert?  Probate entry shows he died 29.11.1895 but probate was given to Cornelius Tipper a solicitors clerk. 

Does the will name any of his children as there were 8 in 1851
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