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Re: Military musicians?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 25 August 05 23:22 BST (UK) »



OK here you go! check these out - gosh I wish he was a smuggler - now that really would be cool!!

http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/MARLINKS.html

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 25 August 05 23:23 BST (UK) »
Annie, Annie!!! you don't know how useful that link was!  :o

You see - the one thing that I forgot to mention (yes there was one) was... That in 1841 Joseph Horton has his Dad living with him (I presume - no relationships given in 1841)  but his name is Thomas Horton age 65... which would make his DOB sometime in the 5 years up to 1776.... Which would make him exactly the right age to have been a drummer in the Battle of Trafalgar....

Sorry for excitement but I'm jumping up and down a bit here!

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 25 August 05 23:29 BST (UK) »
Hi,
My Great-great-great  grandad was a Chelsea Pensioner and a musician...a bugler. My cousin was able to get his record from the Archives of the Grenadier Guards....formerly Foot Guards or Regiments of Foot. I have the postal address if you would like it or I can ask my cousin for the email address.
We later discovered that there were other family members who also had served in the Guards....they were drummers. I think the Guards probably had drum and bugle corps rather than bands per se.

Hope this helps,
Indi

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 25 August 05 23:30 BST (UK) »
Blimey Annie - you must be psychic  ::)
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 25 August 05 23:39 BST (UK) »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Oh Hack! - now you know why Alcrighton calls me a witch!!!!! :P :P :P

I love it when a plan comes together!! - don't you?

Veron - how cool is that??

Indi - Verons relatives are Greenwich Pensioners - that's the sailor side of the Forces but it might be a good idea to find the Royal Marine Museum !!

Annie

EDIT - I was just thinking - I think that's what Crighton means  :P :P
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 27 August 05 04:36 BST (UK) »


I shouldn't say this - but looks to me like this guy has a way with women!! ::)

1861

237 Westgate Bath St Peter and St Paul   Somerset      

Annie Hodges         1805   Camerton, Somerset   Wife   
Annie Hodges         1836   Bath, Somerset   Daughter
John Hodges         1803   Berrow, Somerset   Head   
John Hodges         1843   Bath, Somerset   Son      
Priscilla Hodges   1833   Bath, Somerset   Daughter
Rhoda Hodges    1839   Bath, Somerset Daughter   
Joseph Horton   1807   Birmingham, Warwickshire   Boarder (married and musician      
Alice Hughes          1858   Bristol, Somerset Granddaughter
Edwin Ould           1832   Windsor, Berkshire   Boarder
Frederick Sulton   1821   Norwich, Norfolk   Boarder   

1871

12 Finchley Road St Mary Newington  London

Jane Horton      1841 Hull Wife
Joseph Horton  1806 Birmingham Head Greenwich Pensioner

1881

96 Provost St Holbeck, Yorkshire

Martha Cooper  1821 Leeds widow ( looks like unemployed)
Joseph Horton  1807 Birmingham Head Cutlery Grinder

(Hope this Cooper woman isn't one of mine!!! :P )

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Re: Military musicians?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 27 August 05 10:35 BST (UK) »
How do you do it Annie!?!!  ;D i'm mighty impressed! The plot thickens - oh and from one of the other links you posted - the Thomas Horton who fought at Trafalgar also came from Birmingham so we may be getting places - blimey isn't genealogy interesting!

Horton seems to be a pretty common name in the Brum area so I'm trying not to jump to too many conclusions ( ;) - your Cooper ancestors may be safe after all) but the 1861 and 1871 ones look highly likely don't they- specially as Joseph the younger, the music prof, also lived in St Mary Newington in 1871.....

And, if both Joseph and James Turner were Marines, rather than one being Army and one being Navy (which let's face it is an easy mistake to make, given what marines did), they could both have become Greenwich pensioners, and, it would then be perfectly logical for their children to marry each other as their fathers would have known each other already...

Oh goody! Bank Holiday weekend! 3 whole days of rootschatting! Yay!!

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Re: Military musicians?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 27 August 05 18:39 BST (UK) »


Hi Veron!

I think the '61 '71 '81 are all the same man and I think he is yours!!
but why don't you post on the Warwickshire board and see what else you can find out!!

I'll keep looking for Military stuff here !

Enjoy your weekend - isn't this fun??

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Re: Military musicians?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 27 August 05 20:43 BST (UK) »
Annie - I've just found Joseph on the 1881 census in Faunce Street, Newington, still with Jane, Greenwich Pensioner, born Brum, etc........ sorry to spoil your theory  :-\  but I think that's much more likely to be him...  Oh my goodness, I do feel a subscription to Ancestry coming on.....  ;D  Wonder where Elizabeth was in 1861?  There's a few

Cheers Veron
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WILSON (Edinburgh)
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