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Looking for Reverend Edmund Edward Jones 1st wife maiden *COMPLETE*
« on: Thursday 03 September 20 00:15 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for the maiden name of his 1st wife, might be the marriage in 1860 Cardiff register on FreeBMD.
Marriages Sep 1860 Cardiff 11a 311
Edmund Edward Jones
Mary James
Mary Williams

He was with Mary 1861 and 1871 Census

Reverend Edmund Edward Jones born circa 1827, died 31 Aug 1901. Greenfield House, Pencoed, Glamorgan, Wales

His 2nd marriage was to Margaret Lewis nee Price 4 Nov 1879 at Cardiff, she was previously married  to Thomas Lewis born 1796 Gelligaer, Glamorgan, Wales whom I'm related to.

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Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones - born 1863 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
daughter of James Jones and Eliza Aston
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: Looking for Reverend Edmund Edward Jones 1st wife maiden name
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 September 20 00:46 BST (UK) »
Any children in 1861 or 1871? 

If you look up the childrens births on freebmd then use the link below to search for mothers maiden name

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Looking for Reverend Edmund Edward Jones 1st wife maiden name
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 September 20 01:04 BST (UK) »
No children that I am aware of, there is a "Obit" in a Welsh Newspaper which only mentions his 2nd wife.
Rough Translation with google from Welsh.
THE LAST MARK. EDMUND EDWARD JONES, PENCOED, NEAR BRIDGEND. It is with regret that we record the death of the beloved brother above, which took place on Saturday, August 31st, at his home-Greenfield House. Our brother wandered for years under the influence of deadly paralysis, and everyone knew that there was no hope of recovery, however the end came, as usual, not expected, and was taken from his aged widow at the fair age of 76 years. The church at Penuel, Penprisg, served many times when the cause was only very weak and incapable of daily administration. The church received a great deal of support from this family in many ways, and recently received the princely gift of £ 100 to clear the chapel's outstanding debt. Peace to his ashes, and his aged widow accept our deepest condolences, and receive great power from the Lord in the day of her life.
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3217113/3217122/21/edward
 
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones - born 1863 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
daughter of James Jones and Eliza Aston
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: Looking for Reverend Edmund Edward Jones 1st wife maiden name
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 September 20 04:21 BST (UK) »
I searched for Mary James marriage in 1860
11a 311 is Mary James   :)     
 James    Mary    Cardiff       11a    311

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=31299844:9868&d=bmd_1598251674


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Re: Looking for Reverend Edmund Edward Jones 1st wife maiden name
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 September 20 04:34 BST (UK) »
Also Mary Williams
I'll repost as I left out one groom. Name order is as per FreeBMD
Marriages Sep 1860 Cardiff 11a 311
Mary James
Edmund Edward   Jones
William Lewis
Mary Williams

I searched for Mary James marriage in 1860
11a 311 is Mary James   :)     
 James    Mary    Cardiff       11a    311

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=31299844:9868&d=bmd_1598251674
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones - born 1863 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
daughter of James Jones and Eliza Aston
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: Looking for Reverend Edmund Edward Jones 1st wife maiden name
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 September 20 04:46 BST (UK) »
Blimey!! too many Mary's  . why have they the same Folio?? 

Find my past are convinced it is Mary James for Edmund Edward Jones 

https://www.findmypast.ie/transcript?id=BMD%2FM%2F1860%2F3%2FAZ%2F000937%2F002

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Re: Looking for Reverend Edmund Edward Jones 1st wife maiden name
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 September 20 05:29 BST (UK) »
Thankd rodgepodge,
I don't have paided access to Findmypast so can't use the link.
From what I can see the record set seems to be England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005, which FreeBMD covers.

Edited
I see what you mean by "Find my past are convinced it is Mary James for Edmund Edward Jones"
If you check I think you will see it's also convinced it is Mary James for William Lewis"
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones - born 1863 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
daughter of James Jones and Eliza Aston
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: Looking for Reverend Edmund Edward Jones 1st wife maiden name
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 September 20 06:27 BST (UK) »
The reason I say Findmypast are convinced he married Mary James is, usually FindMyPast will say Edmund Edward Jones married one of the following: and then say Mary James, Mary Williams, William Lewis.

But on this occasion it says 'Edmund Edward Jones married one of the following': Mary James

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Re: Looking for Reverend Edmund Edward Jones 1st wife maiden name
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 September 20 15:19 BST (UK) »
you can't infer anything from the order of surnames for marriages on FreeBmd, it's just alphabetical. Unlikely to be a parish marriage given that he was a Baptist minister.

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb