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Richard Edwards - Llanbeulan. Lived at Foel & Goferydd, South Stack, Holyhead
« on: Saturday 05 September 20 14:46 BST (UK) »
I am trying to trace the origin/parentage of my 3rd great-grandfather Richard Edwards, who I believe was born in Llanbeulan.

He appears in the following censuses:
1841 - Foel, Holyhead Mountain      
1851 - Goferydd, South Stack      

Richard Edwards b. 1802 Llanbeulan
Wife: Anne Edwards (nee Thomas?) b. 1807 Bodedern
Dau: Ann Edwards b. 1829 Holyhead
Son: William Edwards b. 1832 Holyhead
Dau: Jane Edwards b. 1834 Holyhead
Son: Thomas Edwards b. 1835 Holyhead
Son: Richard Edwards b. 1838 Holyhead
Dau: Margaret Edwards b. 1840 Holyhead
Dau: Mary Edwards b. 1842 Holyhead
Son: Charles Edwards b. 1844 Holyhead
Son: Hugh Edwards b. 1846 Holyhead
Dau: Elinor Edwards b. 1846 Holyhead
Son: John Edwards b. 1849 Holyhead

I’d be very grateful of any help.

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Re: Richard Edwards - Llanbeulan. Lived at Foel & Goferydd, South Stack, Holyhead
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 September 20 19:49 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat.

The birth registration for their son Charles confirms Ann's maiden name was Thomas:
Charles son of Richard Edwards & Anne Thomas b. 17 May 1843, Holyhead
Also Margaret dau. of Richard Edward & Anne Thomas b.3 Jan 1840, Holyhead and
Mary dau. of Richard Edward & Anne Thomas b. 19 Nov 1841, Holyhead.

Do you have their marriage?
16 Feb 1827, Bodedern - marriage between Richard Edwards of Penrhoslligwy and Ann Thomas otp, both signed by mark.

Richard Edward, age 56, died 7 Feb 1858 at Goferydd, Holyhead. The informant was Edward Edwards, also of Goferydd.

If Richard is named patronymically there is a baptism at Llanbeulan which fits:
Richard son of Edward Griffith labourer & Jane his wife was baptized 23 Aug 1801.
Two siblings were also baptized at Llanbeulan:
William 16 Jun 1805 and Margaret 10 Sep 1809
Anglesey - Thomas:
Bodedern, Heneglwys, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll.
Anglesey - Jones:
Llanfaethlu, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll, Rhoscolyn.
Anglesey - Parry:Llanfair-yn-Neubwll.
Anglesey - Lewis:Llanbadrig.
Anglesey - Willins & Tyran/Tyrer

Caernarvonshire - Evans and Lewis:Llanberis.

Denbighshire - Jenkins:Llandynan, Llantysilio, Cerrigydrudion.
Denbighshire - Jones:Rhos, Ruabon.
Denbighshire - Jones:Henllan

Flintshire - Mathews:Northop

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Re: Richard Edwards - Llanbeulan. Lived at Foel & Goferydd, South Stack, Holyhead
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 September 20 21:12 BST (UK) »
That's incredible, almost all of that was new to me. Thank you so much dragonT.

Where did you find the birth registrations of the children post 1840? What resource do you use to search?
I had the marriage date in Bodedern, but it was news to me that he lived in Penrhoslligwy. Perhaps the children born prior to 1840 were born/baptised in that parish?

I knew Richard was buried on 11 Feb 1858 in Holyhead, so the death date fits perfectly. The informant "Edward Edwards" is a bit of a mystery, that name doesn't appear on any census.

Thank you again.

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Re: Richard Edwards - Llanbeulan. Lived at Foel & Goferydd, South Stack, Holyhead
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 September 20 10:03 BST (UK) »

Where did you find the birth registrations of the children post 1840? What resource do you use to search?
.....Penrhoslligwy. Perhaps the children born prior to 1840 were born/baptised in that parish?
The informant "Edward Edwards" is a bit of a mystery...

The birth registrations are from a CD rom of Anglesey birth registrations. I can't find the birth regs. for the three youngest children.
All the children (except Jane) were baptised at Holyhead as the children of Richard Edward(s) & Ann(e), Jane was also baptised at Holyhead as the daughter of Richard Griffith & Anne - FindmyPast has the images.
It looks like the 'mystery' Edward Edwards was their first born child - baptised at Bodedern 13 May 1827, the son of Richard & Anne Edwards, Ty yn y graig, labourer (also FindMyPast).
Anglesey - Thomas:
Bodedern, Heneglwys, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll.
Anglesey - Jones:
Llanfaethlu, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll, Rhoscolyn.
Anglesey - Parry:Llanfair-yn-Neubwll.
Anglesey - Lewis:Llanbadrig.
Anglesey - Willins & Tyran/Tyrer

Caernarvonshire - Evans and Lewis:Llanberis.

Denbighshire - Jenkins:Llandynan, Llantysilio, Cerrigydrudion.
Denbighshire - Jones:Rhos, Ruabon.
Denbighshire - Jones:Henllan

Flintshire - Mathews:Northop

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Re: Richard Edwards - Llanbeulan. Lived at Foel & Goferydd, South Stack, Holyhead
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 September 20 17:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you once again dragonT. I'm very grateful.

Do you have their marriage?
16 Feb 1827, Bodedern - marriage between Richard Edwards of Penrhoslligwy and Ann Thomas otp, both signed by mark.

Is there any information on Ann Thomas' father on the certificate?

Also another blind spot in my tree is William Edwards (son of said Richard Edwards and Ann Thomas) b.1831 his wife Anne (its a really common name for brides on the Edwards' side of the family!) who was born abt. 1841. She could have been either an Owen or more likely a Pritchard. They were married in approx. 1864; I do not have access to the certificate imagery through Ancestry to confirm, but I am keen to know more about her side of the family.

She appears in the following censuses:
1871 Goferydd
1881 Goferydd
1891 Goferydd
1901 Goferydd
1911 5 Millbank Gardens (Widowed) living with her grandson William

I don’t know were or when she died or indeed where she was buried?

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Re: Richard Edwards - Llanbeulan. Lived at Foel & Goferydd, South Stack, Holyhead
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 September 20 21:15 BST (UK) »
Hi,
There is no 'marriage certificate' for a marriage before 1837, the information comes from Bodedern parish records. The only additional information is that they were married in the presence of John Lloyd and W. Robinson.

Details for the marriage of William Edwards b.1831 are:
2 Nov 1863 at St. Cybi's, Holyhead between William Edwards, 31, labourer of Goferydd, son of Richard Edwards, labourer & Ann Prichard, 24, Foel, dau. of Richard Prichard, labourer. Witnesses: Edward Prichard & William Hughes.

But, checking the birth registrations of the children of this marriage gives Ann's maiden name as Rogers!

Anne 7 May, 1864 - dau. of William Edwards & Anne Rogers
Richard 29 Apr 1866 - son of William Edwards & Ann Rogers
Thomas 7 Apr 1869 - son of William Edwards & Ann Rogers
Margaret 8 Jun 1873 - dau. of William Edwards & Ann Rogers

and there is a birth registration for Anne Rogers b. 30 Sep 1841, Holyhead, mother Eleanor Rogers, father's name not recorded.
Do you have any ideas about this?

Could this be her death?
Anne Edwards, age 86, died 2 Jul 1927 at 16 Llaingoch, Holyhead, widow of gamekeeper William Edwards. Informant William Edwards, grandson, also 16 Llaingoch.




Anglesey - Thomas:
Bodedern, Heneglwys, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll.
Anglesey - Jones:
Llanfaethlu, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll, Rhoscolyn.
Anglesey - Parry:Llanfair-yn-Neubwll.
Anglesey - Lewis:Llanbadrig.
Anglesey - Willins & Tyran/Tyrer

Caernarvonshire - Evans and Lewis:Llanberis.

Denbighshire - Jenkins:Llandynan, Llantysilio, Cerrigydrudion.
Denbighshire - Jones:Rhos, Ruabon.
Denbighshire - Jones:Henllan

Flintshire - Mathews:Northop

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Re: Richard Edwards - Llanbeulan. Lived at Foel & Goferydd, South Stack, Holyhead
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 September 20 23:31 BST (UK) »
I really appreciate all the research you've done for me dragonT.

and there is a birth registration for Anne Rogers b. 30 Sep 1841, Holyhead, mother Eleanor Rogers, father's name not recorded.
Do you have any ideas about this?

This is all new information, I'll add it to my Ancestry tree and see where it leads me. Either Richard Pritchard was her biological or adoptive father. Haven't been able to find Eleanor Rogers yet!

Could this be her death?
Anne Edwards, age 86, died 2 Jul 1927 at 16 Llaingoch, Holyhead, widow of gamekeeper William Edwards. Informant William Edwards, grandson, also 16 Llaingoch.

That is definitely it. That's my great-uncle's (William Edwards) address, the same one that was living with her in 1911.

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Re: Richard Edwards - Llanbeulan. Lived at Foel & Goferydd, South Stack, Holyhead
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 22:08 GMT (UK) »

Anne 7 May, 1864 - dau. of William Edwards & Anne Rogers
Richard 29 Apr 1866 - son of William Edwards & Ann Rogers
Thomas 7 Apr 1869 - son of William Edwards & Ann Rogers
Margaret 8 Jun 1873 - dau. of William Edwards & Ann Rogers

I'm hoping someone will be able to help me with another blind spot in my tree?
I'm trying to find Thomas Edwards (b.1869) my great granduncle.
He was at home in Goferydd for the 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses until he was at least 21 years old.
I'd really like to know what happened to him.

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Re: Richard Edwards - Llanbeulan. Lived at Foel & Goferydd, South Stack, Holyhead
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 March 24 21:58 GMT (UK) »
I'm hoping someone will be able to help me with another blind spot in my tree?
I'm trying to find Thomas Edwards (b.1869) my great granduncle.
He was at home in Goferydd for the 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses until he was at least 21 years old.
I'd really like to know what happened to him.

Update: I've found a reference to Thomas Edwards in his mother's obituary as having emigrated to Utica, USA and was still there in 1927. He would have left Wales sometime between 1891 and 1901. Grateful if someone could find a passenger record or an address in the US for him.