Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson

[Kay99]

Have you found the 1881 family in 1891?   I looked at the family but on the image in 1881 it looks like Thomas is 14 rather than 4 

Kay

Added  - Sorry if the 1911 is correct it solves the problem

[chempat]

1891   https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1891&indiv=try&h=22355811
living in Barrow
John Jackson   44  Manchester  metal planer
Eliza Jackson   43  Scotland
Thomas Jackson   11   Barrow
Mary Jackson   72  mother  Ireland
John Macartney   23  ? Stepson, France, British Subject metal planer
George Gibson   33 lodger

In 1901 Eliza(beth) and John are in Barrow,ages 52 and 51, 2 boarders with them, husband from Manchester.

[jonw65]

Just a reminder that John Jackson, a Labourer, was deceased in Dec 1901, according to son Thomas!
Info from marriage.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-X3QW-GT?i=208

I do have some more information which might answer some of the questions you have posed

When are you going to post this information?

[chempat]

That was at the back of my mind - could not remember if he were alive or dead. 

It did fit nicely, apart from that (very minor or not) detail.

Try something else?

[chrisruthsmith]

I don't think the  John Jackson and family living in Barrow, identified by chempat is the most likely option as I  remember my mother (Edna) telling me that her grandfather always worked as a labourer

I've been trying to explore the steel erector identified in the 1939 register.  DOB 14/2/1877
and making the assumption that Thomas was born in/near to Manchester then

* T Jackson Prestwich M 1877 08D 471 Ellison

and I found a marriage between and John Jackson and Elizabeth Ellison 10/11/1866
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNTP-W16

I wondered if this could be a possibility? The marriage certificate states he was a widower when he married 

I thought I was going to have some really useful information to share from a photograph of John Jackson which had some notes on the back, unfortunately the sender was incorrect and it was a photograph of Mary Ellen father

[chempat]

I don't think the  John Jackson and family living in Barrow, identified by chempat is the most likely option as I  remember my mother (Edna) telling me that her grandfather always worked as a labourer

and I found a marriage between and John Jackson and Elizabeth Ellison 10/11/1866
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNTP-W16

As John was dead, according to Thomas's marriage certificate, Edna never met her grandfather, so how does she know that he was a labourer all his life, other than what she was told, which is not direct evidence?

A warp sizer, on that proposed John's marriage certificate, is not a labourer, unfortunately.

[chempat]

Ancestry has a marriage in 1844, Manchester, of a John Jackson, of full age, widower, sizer, father James Jackson, weaver, to Rachel Hall.

Makes him, possibly, quite old when marries again, but one cannot tell.

Could not compare signatures, did not sign either time.

[chrisruthsmith]

As John was dead, according to Thomas's marriage certificate, Edna never met her grandfather, so how does she know that he was a labourer all his life, other than what she was told, which is not direct evidence?

A warp sizer, on that proposed John's marriage certificate, is not a labourer, unfortunately.
[/quote]

Thank you - this came from Edith the oldest sister who Edna lived with after Mary Ellen died but its far from fact!

[chrisruthsmith]

I've obtained the birth certificate for the Thomas Jackson identified by JonW65

JACKSON, THOMAS       
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOOTH
GRO Reference: 1877  D Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 748

Thomas was born on 17 Oct 1877, (birth registered 28 Nov 1877 ) to a John and Emma Jackson. John's occupation was given as outdoor labourer. So I think this is very likely the one