The Widow Harriet ELGAR and family in Landport Terrace, Portsea, in the 1830s

[HarryBob]

Where might I find information regarding the folk who lived in Landport Terrace, Portsea Island, Hampshire, during the 1830s?

My interest is the Widow Harriet ELGAR and her family.

I would like to determine when the family arrived at Landport Terrace and something of their lives in the community.

Harriet Elgar and her daughters: Hannah Elgar (baptised 1815), Harriet Smith Elgar (1817) and Margaret Frances Elgar (1818), can be found in the 1841 England Census living in Landport Terrace, Portsea [HO107/414  Book 2 Folio 26/ Page: 5]

During 1830, Widow Elgar left her residence 17 Castle-street, Holborn, London.  While no evidence has yet been found, we believe it likely her children were with her at Holborn.

Additionally, there is a son Henry Elgar (1816), who may have been with the family in 1830 and moved to Portsea.  At the date of the 1841 England Census, Henry Elgar was in Sydney, Australia.

Thank you for your time.

[mckha489]

21 July 1838 - Hampshire Independent - Southampton

Southsea Preparatory establishment for young gentlemen
Mrs & the Misses Elgar

[mckha489]

06 August 1831 - Morning Post - London, London, England
Dr Alexander Stewart


21 July 1834 - Hampshire Telegraph - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Mrs Stevenson’s Estsblishment

29 June 1835 - Hampshire Telegraph - Portsmouth,
Mr Toovey’s School

06 February 1836 - Hampshire Advertiser
William C Engledue, MD, surgeon (but I am having trouble finding the original on the page for this one). Similar OCR for July same year


So the Elgars moved in sometime between July 1836 & July 1838

[mckha489]

I don’t see any advertisements after January 1840

[mckha489]

Is that Hannah marrying in 1843 to the American Consul at Manila?

[HarryBob]

21 July 1838 - Hampshire Independent - Southampton

Southsea Preparatory establishment for young gentlemen
Mrs & the Misses Elgar

Thank you.

[HarryBob]

06 August 1831 - Morning Post - London, London, England
Dr Alexander Stewart


21 July 1834 - Hampshire Telegraph - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Mrs Stevenson’s Estsblishment

29 June 1835 - Hampshire Telegraph - Portsmouth,
Mr Toovey’s School

06 February 1836 - Hampshire Advertiser
William C Engledue, MD, surgeon (but I am having trouble finding the original on the page for this one). Similar OCR for July same year


So the Elgars moved in sometime between July 1836 & July 1838

Thank you.
I guess these 4 are linked by an address.  I shall chase them up tomorrow.

[HarryBob]

I don’t see any advertisements after January 1840

For the Southsea Preparatory establishment for young gentlemen?

More to do tomorrow.

Thank you.

[HarryBob]

Is that Hannah marrying in 1843 to the American Consul at Manila?

Yes.

Hannah Elgar=Josiah Moore, 30 Aug 1842, Manila, Manila, Philippines
Then
Margaret France Elgar=Alexander Dyce, 17 Oct 1844, Manila, Manila, Philippines

Brother Henry Elgar was a witness at Margaret Frances' wedding.

Henry was in Australia, c1836. An interesting story follows until his death in 1852, at sea off Macau. 
We are trying to determine how, when and why Henry was in Australia.

Also, how, when and why Hannah and Margaret went to Manila is a question we'd like to answer.

The third sister, Harriet Smith Elgar was in Manila for a a few months in mid 1848.

Thank you for your time.

Bob