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Offline DianaCanada

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Unusual Probate Index Entry
« on: Thursday 17 September 20 20:51 BST (UK) »
Have seen a lot of probate index entries over the years, but never one like this.  A relative died in a rural area and the entry says "last seen April 4, body found April 6".  This was in 1987, so no handy newspapers to consult online.  What do rootschatters think?  Simply that she was found dead at home or she went missing?  At first I thought the latter, but perhaps this is the standard way to record that she had not been seen for a couple of days.

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Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 September 20 21:44 BST (UK) »
I would guess the latter especially if in a rural area with few neighbours. 

Don't suppose there is an address given is there?  If it was her abode then she hadn't gone missing and simply died at home.  The death certificate may have more information. 
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Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 September 20 22:08 BST (UK) »
I have seen an entry on the probate index that gives the address of their normal abode, the date they were last seen alive and details as to where the body was found.  They had taken their own life  :'(
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Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 September 20 22:09 BST (UK) »
I would guess the latter especially if in a rural area with few neighbours. 

Don't suppose there is an address given is there?  If it was her abode then she hadn't gone missing and simply died at home.  The death certificate may have more information.

Yes her address was given, and she’d lived there for decades. 


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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 September 20 22:17 BST (UK) »
From news reports, it seems that the official time and date a body is found is when the police attend, even if others have already found the deceased.
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Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 September 20 22:25 BST (UK) »
Just looked at the probate listing again, none of the people have a place of death for the two pages I checked, just their abode. In 1987 I would think a good number of people would have died in hospital, if not most. 

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 September 20 22:46 BST (UK) »
I wouldn't think a place of death was of much importance to a probate?
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Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 September 20 23:59 BST (UK) »
I found recently a similar 'last seen alive' several days previously which highlighted the significance and legal ramifications of the accurate date of our death.   With today's high proportion of adults living alone and with no relatives, being found dead after many days, weeks or even months may become a common occurrence.

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Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 September 20 00:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you, everyone for your input.  Barring purchasing the death certificate or reading a newspaper reference about her death, I guess I won’t know for sure what happened.