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George Roper Sinclair - help requested
« on: Monday 05 October 20 14:53 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find whether George Roper Sinclair (1900-1975) had any children and whether there are any living descendants.

From searching on Ancestry I have found several Electoral Registers which gave his most recent address in 1963, 1969 and 1972 as 175 Springfield Road, St Albans, NZ where he was registered with his wife, Gladys Esther (nee Withers). They were married in 1925. I believe he died in 1975 (source - Find My Past website).

George Roper Sinclair was in fact born as George Roper Burns in 1900 in Yorkshire, England. His mother, Esther Burns, married James Sinclair in 1903 in Glasgow, Scotland and they emigrated to New Zealand some time before 1908, when their son, Archibald Alexander Sinclair, was born there.

On the 1901 census, Esther Burns, a single woman, was working as a housekeeper for George Roper in Mexborough, Yorkshire and had a 5 month old child, George Roper Burns. Although no father is named on George Roper Burns' Birth Certificate, his identity is fairly clear!

I suspect that George Roper also fathered an illegitimate daughter in 1904 who went on to become my husband's grandmother. She was adopted and we have no information about her, but DNA matching has strongly implied that George Roper or one of his brothers was her father. Thus, if I could find a living descendant of George Roper who was willing to be tested, we could estimate the closeness of the relationship and probably confirm the hypothesis that he was the most likely candidate.

Thanks to anyone who can give us any help with this.

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Re: George Roper Sinclair - help requested
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 October 20 20:29 BST (UK) »
Hello Julie,

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: George Roper Sinclair - help requested
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 October 20 21:16 BST (UK) »
Death:
1975/38467   Sinclair   George Roper   19 October 1899

Actual date of death was: 20.8.1975.

I suggest you contact the Christchurch library and request a scan of the death notice. This will possibly have family details.

https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/contact-us/

Added: You could also make a similar request in respect of his wife:

1982/26865   Sinclair   Gladys Esther   18 July 1906

Actual date of death: 25.1.1982


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: George Roper Sinclair - help requested
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 October 20 22:52 BST (UK) »
Possibly the couple were cremated as not found in the Christchurch cemeteries database.

You could contact the cremation society for details. Just scroll to the foot of the page for the e-mail address.

https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/about-christchurch-city-council-cemeteries-database/


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: George Roper Sinclair - help requested
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 October 20 09:43 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for all these helpful suggestions. I have followed them all up and am hoping to be able to progress further when I receive responses to my emails/orders. I have many years experience with British genealogical records but none at all with those in New Zealand, so your expertise is much appreciated. Thanks again.

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Re: George Roper Sinclair - help requested
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 October 20 19:19 BST (UK) »
Hello Julie,

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: George Roper Sinclair - help requested
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 October 20 23:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks minniehaha - your hunch about cremation was correct, and the library have been in touch to say that they will look for the death notices and email me a copy. Fantastic service!

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Re: George Roper Sinclair - help requested
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 October 20 23:22 BST (UK) »
PM sent.......

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.