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Does a marriage record still exist in the case of bigamy?
« on: Wednesday 21 October 20 21:26 BST (UK) »
Probably a silly question...

Frederick ROFFEY married Ann susannah MITCHELL in 1898, Islington. I can see the entry on the marriage index.

This was a bigamous marriage as his wife who he married in 1881 was still alive. He was sentenced to hard labour.

What I want to find is the actual record - usually in the London banns collection. I want to know whether he listed himself as single or widowed, where he lived etc.

Would it have been removed? As the record always shows 3 other marriages, is there a way of knowing who else would be on that record and finding the image that way?

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Re: Does a marriage record still exist in the case of bigamy?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 21:51 BST (UK) »
You can purchase the marriage certificate to find out what details he gave about himself:

Marriages Jun 1898
Islington    1b   793   

Fisher    Alice        
JENKINS    Adolphus Cowley        
Mitchell    Ann Susannah       
Roffey    Frederick       

 

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Re: Does a marriage record still exist in the case of bigamy?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 21:52 BST (UK) »
Yes I thought the same, you can purchase a copy of the certificate from the entry on the index.
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Re: Does a marriage record still exist in the case of bigamy?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 22:00 BST (UK) »
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Fisher    Alice       
JENKINS    Adolphus Cowley     

A copy of that marriage is online but your couple not on the same page.
Theirs was Highbury Wesleyan Church Islington.

Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos


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Re: Does a marriage record still exist in the case of bigamy?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 22:52 BST (UK) »
You may find they married in the registry office -in which case the only way to get full details (should also give father's names and occupations and witnesses names) is to purchase the certificate

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Re: Does a marriage record still exist in the case of bigamy?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 October 20 13:31 BST (UK) »
The marriage record might have been crossed through and/or annotated, but it will still exist in the register.

I agree that purchasing a copy of the marriage certificate is the way forward.  If you are lucky there might be an entry added later in the margin regarding validity.

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Re: Does a marriage record still exist in the case of bigamy?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 October 20 13:42 BST (UK) »

My late Grandfather made a bigamous marriage just after WW2.

Both marriage certificates are still available, with no additional notations made.

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Re: Does a marriage record still exist in the case of bigamy?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 October 20 20:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks all. I'll have to decide whether I want to fork out for the certificate or not!

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Re: Does a marriage record still exist in the case of bigamy?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 October 20 08:52 BST (UK) »
Probably a silly question...

Frederick ROFFEY married Ann susannah MITCHELL in 1898, Islington. I can see the entry on the marriage index.

This was a bigamous marriage as his wife who he married in 1881 was still alive. He was sentenced to hard labour.

What I want to find is the actual record - usually in the London banns collection. I want to know whether he listed himself as single or widowed, where he lived etc.

Would it have been removed? As the record always shows 3 other marriages, is there a way of knowing who else would be on that record and finding the image that way?

It is illegal to remove any registration of birth marriage or death from any official register.
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