William Phillips

[Diggory Venn]

I wonder if anyone has William Phillips, born about 1826, on their family tree please?  I don’t know his place of birth. He married Harriett Wilkins at Eatington, Warwickshire in 1845, but is not listed with his wife on the 1851 census.  She is recorded as married, rather than widowed, and whilst that may not be significant, I wonder if he was working away from home.  I have traced a WP of the right age and occupation (blacksmith) in 1851 as a lodger in the home of Thomas Fisher, blacksmith at Blockley, not too far away.  But that may be coincidence. If this is my man, he gave his birthplace as Campden, which is probably Chipping Campden, close to Blockley.  In the 1861 census Hariett is described as widowed, so William must have died by then – but I haven’t managed to trace his death.

Grateful for any clues, thank you.
 

[suzard]

Not the William Phillips who is in my tree -but his marriage is interesting

from image Parish register
Page23 entry 46
Marriage after banns church in Parish of Ealington
3 Mar 1845
William Phillips nineteen years Bachelor Blacksmith address Bearley father William CALDECOTE occ Blacksmith
Harriet Wilkins full age Spinster Dressmaker address Ealington father AdamWilkins occ Tailor
witnesses:Hannah Wilkins Emma Phillips Frederick Southen and Michael Bonhill (made his mark)
Bride and Groom signed as did first 3 witnesses

Suz

[Diggory Venn]

Thank you Suz, that's helpful.  I wonder if Emma Phillips was his mother or sister, maybe I can find an 1841 census with the family group.

[suzard]

Ive been looking but not found anything yet

Have found a strong possibility for one of the witnesses - probably william's friend
In 1841 Michael Bonehill was age 15 ag lab  and living in Bearley  b in county
Cant find him in 1851 but he marrid Ann Wapples Shrive 10 July 1854
he eventually became a blacksmith

I wondered if Emma was his mother or sister??

Suz

[Diggory Venn]

Thanks Suz, I'm gathering a few more points of information, which I'm sure will help.  Grateful for your assistance.

Bill

[Ladyhawk]

Could this be them on 1841 census in Aston Warwickshire

William Snr. occ sawyer   
surname transcribed as Goldarott

William Coldacott 35
William 15
John 13
Charles 10
Job 2
Sarah 38
Esther   8
Sarah 6
Ann 4
William & Sarah noted as not born in this county
Piece:   1150 Folio:   30 Page    22

Possible death William Snr.

William Coldicott
Registration Year:   1882
Registration Quarter:   Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death:   76
Registration District:   Birmingham Warwickshire
Volume:   6d Page:   18

[Diggory Venn]

Thanks Ladyhawk, that looks interesting.  I'm puzzled about father and son having different surnames, could that be because William jnr was born before marriage?

Cheers,

Bill

[Ladyhawk]

Here’s an 1841 census entry this William Coldicott occ blacksmith

Surname as transcribed on Anc*y
William Coldicot   35 blacksmith
Sarah Coldied   30
William Coldied   14
Mary Coldied   11
John Coldied   8
Emma Coldied   6
Thomas Coldied   1
Piece:   360 Folio:   6 Page Number:   7

[Diggory Venn]

Many thanks, Ladyhawk.

Cheers,

Bill