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Hi,

So far I have: -

William Bishop and Hannah ? as the parents of my 3rd great grandmother, Mary Ann Bishop who was baptised on 20 August 1815 at All Saints, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England: -

Baptism:-
20 Aug 1815 • All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Parents: William Bishop and Hannah. Abode: Harvels Oak. Register Entry No: 575. Source: FreeReg

Searching on FreeReg, I have found two other baptisms for Mary Ann's sisters: -

Baptism for Sarah Bishop:-
15 Aug 1813 • All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Parents: William Bishop and Hannah. Abode: Harvels Hawthorn. Father's Occupation: Collier. Register Entry No: 124. Source: FreeReg


Baptism for Jane Bishop:-
9 Nov 1817 • All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Parents: William Bishop and Hannah. Abode: Harvels Hawthorn. Father's Occupation: Collier. Register Entry No: 1019. Source: FreeReg


And what could be a burial for their father, William Bishop: -

Burial:-
19 Sep 1817 • All Saints, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Register entry number: 730. William Bishop, age 28. Burial Person Abode: Harveys Hawthorn. Source: FreeReg

This would explain why there were no more children after Jane.  As my 4th great grandfather died aged 28, this would put him as being born around 1789.  Did he die as a result of an accident at the Colliery or from an illness?  Apart from finding these records on FreeReg, I cannot find any records for William Bishop (1789 - 19 Sept 1817) and Hannah ? on Ancestry and Family Search

I have been unable to find records of their marriage apart from this one, also found on FreeReg: -

5 Nov 1809 at St. Mary's, Handworth.  Groom: William Bishop.  Bride: Hannah ?  Witness 1: John Lawley.  Witness 2: Mary Greaves.  Notes: Brides surname is impossible to read on Birmingham Archives microfiche image. Groom, Bride & both Witnesses all sign X. Transcribed by Sandra Cooper.

But there's a gap of having no children between their marriage date and the first child, Sarah Bishop ...?

On the 1861 Census record for Mary Ann's sister, widowed Jane Bishop age 44 (who married Joseph Woolley on 5 Aug 1839 at All Saints, West Bromwich), there is another widow, Hannah Pugh age 72 living with Jane and her sons. Could this Hannah Pugh be Jane, Mary Ann and Sarah's mother?  I have looked up for a marriage for Hannah Pugh and not having any luck so far.

Please could some one advise me where to go from here? 

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Re: Marriage for William Bishop (Abt.1789 - buried 19 Sept 1817 and Hannah?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 October 20 15:50 GMT (UK) »
1851 has Jane Worley as daughter of Hannah Pugh
HO107/2025
Folio   443
Page   3
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Re: Marriage for William Bishop (Abt.1789 - buried 19 Sept 1817 and Hannah?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 October 20 15:56 GMT (UK) »
1841 Hannah Pugh is with William Pugh he is age 55
HO107
Piece 978
Book 8
Folio 13
Page 18
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Re: Marriage for William Bishop (Abt.1789 - buried 19 Sept 1817 and Hannah?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 October 20 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Maybe  :-\

William Pugh
Hannah Bishop
Marriage date 06 Sep 1830
Marriage place   Walsall
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Re: Marriage for William Bishop (Abt.1789 - buried 19 Sept 1817 and Hannah?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 October 20 17:35 GMT (UK) »
1851 has Jane Worley as daughter of Hannah Pugh
HO107/2025
Folio   443
Page   3

Many thanks for finding this as I didn't see this one.  Names of Jane's children fit and also where they originally came from.   

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Re: Marriage for William Bishop (Abt.1789 - buried 19 Sept 1817 and Hannah?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 October 20 17:45 GMT (UK) »
1841 Hannah Pugh is with William Pugh he is age 55
HO107
Piece 978
Book 8
Folio 13
Page 18

Many thanks and I did see this one and marked it just in case as the ages didn't match.

Due to a wide age gap between Esther and other siblings, I wonder if Esther Pugh is the daughter of William Pugh and his first wife? Ages are a nightmare, which is something I'll need to check the ages of the younger ones on GRO.